DN Luke vs DE Sidious, Darth Malak and DN Kyp Durron

Except for the fact that the force storm was derived from the ancient Sith? "Thought so".

Originally posted by Great Vengeance
Lol...

Quantify it? You want me to give the exact mathematical value? 28,200 perhaps?

The potential of any Skywalker is enormous, that should be enough.

Really.. So the potential of an untrained Jedi and a fetus speaks volumes for Sidous? Or not.

Originally posted by tdtd
Except for the fact that the force storm was derived from the ancient Sith? "Thought so".

Proof? Oh right you dont have any. 😐

Originally posted by tdtd
Really.. So the potential of an untrained Jedi and a fetus speaks volumes for Sidous? Or not.

You do know what potential is right?

po·ten·tial

Capable of being but not yet in existence; latent: a potential problem.
Having possibility, capability, or power.

So, just because Leia was untrained, and Anakin was a fetus doesn't mean their potentials are not great. Because, as posted, potential is what they can become, or rather, the power they are capable of emerging into in the future.

Except for the fact that you can google it and find many many sources of the force storm being used prior to Palpatine, and it being derived from the ancient sith is a fact... Look it up before typing, thanks.

See: Anakin Skywalker and Ben Skywalker...potential abound

Originally posted by tdtd
Really.. So the potential of an untrained Jedi and a fetus speaks volumes for Sidous? Or not.

Apparently you still havent grasped the concept of potential. The fact that Leia was untrained and Anakin was still a fetus is irrelevent. It was their *potential*...everything that they were capable of becoming. Do you need to look up 'potential' in a dictionary?

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Originally posted by Motoko Sama
You do know what potential is right?

[b]po·ten·tial

Capable of being but not yet in existence; latent: a potential problem.
Having possibility, capability, or power.

So, just because Leia was untrained, and Anakin was a fetus doesn't mean their potentials are not great. Because, as posted, potential is what they can become, or rather, the power they are capable of emerging into in the future. [/B]

Yes I know what potential is, thanks for the lesson. Yet you still haven't been able to quantify how great the potential of Leia and Anakin are, and this doesn't speak volumes for Sidious either.

Gee, their grandfather is only the force itself and baby Anakin was described as practically a luminous being, purely of the force and a great jedi already

Except baby Anakin was a fetus at the time of the fight. Except with their "force potential", they were able to stop Palpatine and his force storm, make him lose control for it, etc.. This puts Palpatine on a higher pedestal, or even in the same league as DN Luke, how?

Originally posted by tdtd
Except for the fact that you can google it and find many many sources of the force storm being used prior to Palpatine, and it being derived from the ancient sith is a fact... Look it up before typing, thanks.

The burden of proof is yours, come back when you find it.

Originally posted by tdtd
Yes I know what potential is, thanks for the lesson. Yet you still haven't been able to quantify how great the potential of Leia and Anakin are, and this doesn't speak volumes for Sidious either.

You're welcome for the lesson. That'll be 25 USD please.

Who in the goddamn world said I was arguing it? I was only saying that just because Anakin was a fetus, and Leia was untrained doesn't mean that their potentials are necessarily weak.

Gotcha Sama... GV I don't have to prove it, there are some things on this forum that are basic facts, that don't need proof.

And this isn't one of them

Actually it is, because for one, we know Darth Bane used a force storm during one of the Ruusan battles...

Point: Luke was only able to "overpower" Sidious when he combined his potential with that of Leia's and the unborn Anakin's.

Whatever training he's had beyond that point, then, is irrelevant. Palpatine is still more powerful than Luke.

Palpatine may indeed take this alone.

I believe it's mentioned in the TOTJ Companion about the Force storms.

LOL! That's some infallible logic IKC, except for the fact that this isn't DE Luke, it's DN Luke. Palpatine has no chance against DN Luke, but thanks for your opinion.. That's as ridiculous as me saying Freedon Nadd could take Exar Kun at the height of his power(which I have said)..

THanks for the source Sama..
Luke takes this after some time.

That wasn't a force storm and more a 'hyper blast of pure dark side' 26 Sith lrods hurled together

It's defined as a force storm lightsnake. Now perhaps Palpatine's version was a lot more powerful but the fact remains that it was derived from the ancient sith, and knowing the ancient sith, theirs was more powerful.