Galactus vs. Arishem the Judge

Started by golem3709 pages

I believe imo that Arishem is equal to Galactus could go ether way who is stronger then Dreaming Celestial and is dwarfed by Exitar in power which mean I believe Galactus is lower then Exitar atleast in 616

Originally posted by galan7777777
so beating a full powered tyrant is a low showing?

I thought Tyrant beat Galactus?

Originally posted by golem370
I thought Tyrant beat Galactus?
here ya go its a cool fight:
1.http://img158.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img...alactus14jn.jpg
2.http://img152.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img...alactus27ey.jpg

In Earth X, it was shown that one Celestial is not on Galactus's level,
but several of them can take on Galactus. Now I know this is not
in 616 continuity, but it is the only example of a Galactus/Celestial
confrontation that I know of. So for lack of any other examples,
I would assume that Galactus is more powerful than one Celestial.
It has been stated that Galactus is the third in the trinity of
Eternity - Death - Galactus. That's a pretty high stature.

although Arishem does have some mad skillz:

Links are no good for me Galan

Originally posted by golem370
Links are no good for me Galan
hold on....

Originally posted by galan7777777
try these:
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/...t0203ix8yo4.jpg
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/...ant04zn2zt0.jpg
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/...ant05yk6id3.jpg
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/...ant06zo1ge4.jpg

You copy and pasted them from somewhere in a thread, no?

You copied the ... and not the full URL bit. 🙂

I really doubt that even at full power Galactus is an equal to Eternity what does he represent I mean there Love,Hate,Chaos,Order,Time,Space and others I guess. What does he represent? Celestials go around and cleanse planets of unworthy life but really the only thing Galactus does is feed. Celestials speed up evolution process where Galactus just destroys. Where was Galactus when Franklin created his own Universe the Celestials were helping him and even gave him a ultimatum to choose which universe to keep are they would choose for him.

Originally posted by golem370
Links are no good for me Galan
here ya go, they should work now:
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/2537/tyrant0203ix8yo4.jpg
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/3019/tyrant04zn2zt0.jpg
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/3292/tyrant05yk6id3.jpg
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5706/tyrant06zo1ge4.jpg

Originally posted by golem370
I really doubt that even at full power Galactus is an equal to Eternity what does he represent I mean there Love,Hate,Chaos,Order,Time,Space and others I guess. What does he represent? Celestials go around and cleanse planets of unworthy life but really the only thing Galactus does is feed. Celestials speed up evolution process where Galactus just destroys. Where was Galactus when Franklin created his own Universe the Celestials were helping him and even gave him a ultimatum to choose which universe to keep are they would choose for him.
without big g the universal balance is thrown off, he is just as necessary as eternity,infinity, and death for the universe to function properly

Thanks for the scan. But again what role does he play

Originally posted by golem370
Thanks for the scan. But again what role does he play
who?

There is more to G than the dopey dude that keeps getting knocked around by Marvel's most popular characters.

He is the top of the food chain. Where have the Celestials shown that they have more power than G? At the most, Exitar is used for wiping planets clean. And even then, it was shown in a Thor book, they only transplant the inhabitants of failed worlds, to other worlds.
Hell, WE can almost do that now.
Galactus has shown he can just chill out at the edge of a Black Hole, devour worlds, destroy galaxies.
I think of the Celestials as the "Scientists" of the universal big boys.
Galactus is more like the "Bouncer".
Who knows what the real truth behind the Celestials will be, from writer to writer. We saw once that, at least a component of a soon-to-be-celestial was going to be made of Hercules!
Galactus at FP should be way over a big pile of super beings.

G's original story, was that he existed to roam the universe, devouring planets whenever he needs to, in order to stay powerful. Because, one day he would be called upon to fight something that would come here to destroy the universe.
And, as part of the Marvel Universe Trinity, if he were to be destroyed, the basic fabric of the universe would also be destroyed.
There was even "The Last Galactus Story" in Epic magazine, waaay back when, that showed the final confontation, as Galactus turns to face the threat.
Very cool.

You guys are gonna love this:

From Epic Illustrated:

Q: I can't seem to find the Epic Illustrated special that was supposed to have the conclusion to "The Last Galactus Story". Where can I find it?
A: Unfortunately even though this was advertised for sale in the last Epic issue, John Byrne went on to do other things and no longer had control over the Galactus story so the issue and story were never made. Since then many other things have happened in the Marvel universe that would cause continuity problems, so there may never be an ending to this story. But from an interview in 2000 by Comic Book Resources, here's how John said he originally planned to conclude this story:

"Galactus battles the Watcher who showed up at the end of the last published chapter. This turns out to be the same Watcher who witnessed the "birth" of Galactus - yes, that was not Uatu - and who has been driven insane by his guilt over all the deaths that have happened because, as he sees it, he did not snuff out the nascent Galactus
when he had the chance. As the two battle, over millennia, the universe basically dies around them. The stars burn out. No "Big Crunch" of everything collapsing back onto itself to be born again. Entropy wins over all. As the universe verges on flickering out of existence, Galactus draws into himself the last shreds of energy, giving him just enough of an edge to defeat the rogue Watcher. But then Galactus and Nova are
alone in an empty, endless void. The universe as we know it is gone. Galactus finally understands what it's all about. What he's been doing all these billions of years. He cracks the seals on his armor, and all the energy he has absorbed spews out of him. He becomes, effectively, the Big Bang of the next universe. Nova survives - and herself becomes the "Galactus" of that universe, the cycle beginning once again."

http://www.heavymetalmagazinefanpage.com/faq.html

Here is another John Byrne statement about the end of the Fanstastic Four, including Galactus:

Incidentally, back when I was first approached about Marvel's "The End" project, I was asked to think about "last issues" for the X-Men and the Fantastic Four. One of the things that occured to me was using this as a way to finally finish the Last Galactus Story. Goes like this:

One day, out of a clear blue sky, literally, Nova falls into the heart of Manahattan. The FF go to investigate. They find her, and after a bit of trouble deciphering what she is saying they realize she has come from billions of years in the future. Reed's "universal translator" was having problems with her speech because she was speaking English, but English distorted by billions of years. Anyway, she finally tells them what's going on with Galactus and the rogue Watcher, and the FF race off to use their captured version of Doctor Doom's time machine to speed to the future and try to help Galactus. (Reed, you see, being Reed, has already figured out what Galactus' purpose is in the scheme of things.)

Uh oh! Using Doom's time machine alerts the good Doctor to what they are up to, and he goes after them. Pretty quickly he figures out what is going on, and realizes this is a perfect opportunity to steal the power of Galactus for himself. The universe may die in the meanwhile? What cares he?

continued in next post.

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So, of course, the FF end up battling Doom, who is doing all kinds of things to try to get Galactus' power, while Galactus is busy himself dealing with the rogue Watcher. Finally the good guys -- which includes Galactus in this case -- win, But Ben and Nova both die heroically in the process. Galactus wonders what it was all about, what it was all for. Reed tells him. Galactus understands. The FF (what's left of them) start to head back to their time machine with Doom as their prisoner. Galactus calls after them. "Leave him!" Moment of tension, but Reed agrees. The FF return to the present, and just as they wink out they see Galactus open the seals on his armor and begin to release all his stored energy.

The three are back on Earth, in the present. They mourn Ben, but they resolve to continue to fight the good fight, in his honor. The Fantastic Four are no more, but the Three shall fight on! Sue wonders what Galactus wanted Doom for.

Cut to somewhere, somewhen else. Energies roil. A Universe is aborning, and at its heart we see a great cosmic "egg" akin to the one that once gave birth to Galactus. It opens, and Galactus rises from its midst -- but when he turns to us, we see he now has the face/mask of Doctor Doom. Like a certain other human we all know, Doom is about to learn that "with great power must come great responsibility'. (2/15/2005)

http://www.byrnerobotics.com/FAQ/listing.asp?ID=3&T1=Questions+about+Aborted+Storylines

That would have been classic....very neat and logically acceptable (for comics) which is why I always preferred Marvel over DC. But back to the debate, I still feel that "normal" G would not be much of a threat to Arishem, but full powered G would damn over whelm any single celestial including Exitar.

Yeah, basically, Byrne is saying that Galactus has power enough to become a new universe in his own right.
That is saying something.

Originally posted by Priest
galactus with little problems
NO evidence that puts Galactus over any Celestials.

you can theorize this and that but saying Galactus wins with easy is naïve