Raiden(Cyborg Ninja) vs Gray Fox(Cyborg Ninja)

Kamik by the way I realized it was her who gave the hf blade to Snake so he could give it to him. That's why I edited my post. Sorry you didn't catch it before you replied. 😛

Wouldn't the best way to stay hidden be possible with the Stealth Camo? Exactly. So what was she doing during all that time, playing strippoker with Liquid Ocelot? If she appeared instantly that means she was actually paying close attention to Raiden's moves, don't you think?

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Kamik by the way I realized it was her who gave the hf blade to Snake so he could give it to him. That's why I edited my post. Sorry you didn't catch it before you replied. 😛

Wouldn't the best way to stay hidden be possible with the Stealth Camo? Exactly. So what was she doing during all that time, playing strippoker with Liquid Ocelot? If she appeared instantly that means she was actually paying close attention to Raiden's moves, don't you think?

Well yeah, it might be possible but stealth camo proved many times that it works horribly bad. Besides Olga can't just dissapear for a long time. Everyone would start to suspect her and she would never showed on the roof of Arsenal unless her child was in danger because she didn't wanted to be suspected.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Kamik by the way I realized it was her who gave the hf blade to Snake so he could give it to him. That's why I edited my post. Sorry you didn't catch it before you replied. 😛

Wouldn't the best way to stay hidden be possible with the Stealth Camo? Exactly. So what was she doing during all that time, playing strippoker with Liquid Ocelot? If she appeared instantly that means she was actually paying close attention to Raiden's moves, don't you think?

Did Olga even have stealth camo? I don't remember that she had any.... And she would go undercover as always, they still thought of her as one of their own...

If Gray Fox's prototype had Camo what would stop that from being part of Olga's suit? Besides she did came out of no where when Snake switched sides in order to get aboard Arsenal Gear.

Edit: True they thought of her as one of their own, but they never trust in her.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
If Gray Fox's prototype had Camo what would stop that from being part of Olga's suit? Besides she did came out of no where when Snake switched sides in order to get aboard Arsenal Gear.

[b]Edit: True they thought of her as one of their own, but they never trust in her. [/B]

She did it even without the suit on arsenal so I don't think it was stealth camo.

Noone there trusted anyone but still they needed each other so Olga had no need to blow her cover.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
If Gray Fox's prototype had Camo what would stop that from being part of Olga's suit? Besides she did came out of no where when Snake switched sides in order to get aboard Arsenal Gear.

[b]Edit: True they thought of her as one of their own, but they never trust in her. [/B]

That's exactly my point, just because it is newer doesn't mean it got everything an older got....

Still, it was a cover, I mean, she owned most of the troops there...

Right, but I am quite sure Olga in the Ninja suit had the camo on before Snake told her to reveal herself. Too bad I no longer have a PS2.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Right, but I am quite sure Olga in the Ninja suit had the camo on before Snake told her to reveal herself. Too bad I no longer have a PS2.

May be, but it seemed she was hiding somewhere above them.

Indeed, she was sitting in the roof, if she did have stealth then she would stand beside them. Snake also met Olga while she was in the suit, she didn't walk around invisible.

Yeah.. how do you know Fox suit is a prototype?

Because Naomi and Kenneth baker commented on it in MGS.

Funny Raiden didn't just notice her if she was sitting in the roof. Funny indeed. Either he is blind, or just stupid. Your choice.

Okey, are you always noticing a lamp in the roof. I mean, you are not alway looking for things in the roofs...

Er, not me, but Raiden is a top-notch highly trained soldier following in Snake's footsteps. If he simply didn't see her something is seriously wrong.

Does Raiden know that he gotta look in the roof all the time, to check if he can see a cyborg Ninja?

When you're in such a dangerous stealth mission you pay close attention to your surroundings in order to survie. Not to mention he has encountered the Ninja numerous times and has orders not to trust the Ninja.

Still... you do not look in the roofs all the time...

No, you cannot expect that much, he is not always right and cannot always excpect something. I have never seen any of the Metal Gear characters sneaking in a room look up in the roof ONCE. And why did not Olga walk around invisible? How come she always comes from the roof?

And did Snake check the roof for Metal Gear Geko's in MGS 4? Isen't he a more professional soldier than Raiden?

All right, I'll give up on it and accept it points towards no camo for Olga's suit. As for Snake not checking out the roof he is obviously getting old 😛. I don't know about Snake being more pro than Raiden though. More experienced, yes, more professional I don't know. He probably is though.