Raiden(Cyborg Ninja) vs Gray Fox(Cyborg Ninja)

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kamikz A.I.M Mercenary

Of course he is. 😛

Kaithen Senior Member

HELL YEAH!

ninjARaiden Junior Member

The snake in Metal Gear Solid 2 is a completely different person than the one in Metal Gear Solid 3. For those of you that didn't know, Snake is a clone, and there are more than 2 of him. Why do you think he ages so fast? MGS2 - Solid Snake. MGS3 - Naked Snake.
As for the Raiden section, I'm sure you have all played the game now(MGS4), and know what Ninja Raiden is capable of. I'm gonna go with Raiden, all the way. He has the creativity and enough speed, let alone, he doesn't fear death and is somewhat immune to pain. His body is a machine, and he was almost unstoppable without his arms. To add, he summoned lightning, and I'm sure lightning and speed are a great counter for speed and invisibility.

GenomeFrozener The Last Boss

I don't think Raiden would last against Fox in a straight sword duel. We only saw like small feats with Raiden in terms of speed. But with Fox, he has that whole deflect bullets while walking slowly and other various feats in TTS. That and Fox has more solid experience than Jack.

NemeBro Senior Member

Raiden by feats is physically strong enough to tear Gray Fox in half.

Fox struggles to stop Rex's foot.

Raiden tosses Rays around physically.

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Originally posted by NemeBro
Raiden by feats is physically strong enough to tear Gray Fox in half.

Fox struggles to stop Rex's foot.

Raiden tosses Rays around physically.

I watched all the cutscenes on Youtube, and I don't remember him tossing a Ray around. He did toss around a lot of those smaller mechs.

If you're talking about the upcoming action game, I believe that's not canon for the MGS series, in the same way DBZ movies aren't canon to the manga..

If it were, obviously Raiden pwns..

0mega Spawn TheWarmestSun

fox goes invisible, slices raiden in half
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NemeBro Senior Member

What makes you think he could slice Raiden in half?

Vamp didn't have an easy time of it with Raiden's own sword.

KingD19 Shai-Gen's Enigmatic Wong

Vamp didn't try to slice him in half. He was basically playing around the whole time.

And Raiden and Fox's swords were different. Raiden's blade edge heated up. Fox's just vibrated at hyper-fast frequencies. So while Raiden's blade basically burns through materieals, Fox's shakes things apart.

NemeBro Senior Member

That would make Raiden's blade better for cutting though.

Regardless, Raiden is about as fast, but much stronger and more durable.

KingD19 Shai-Gen's Enigmatic Wong

Raiden's not as fast imo. His fight with Vamp was shown to be at a pace that while fast, wasn't near what Fox could do when he really applied himself.

And while Raiden's blade could be better suited for burning through something similar to a lightsaber. Fox's would be better for just opening a continuous gaping wound until the cut was done. It's the same concept as the vibroblade in star wars.

NemeBro Senior Member

Originally posted by KingD19
Raiden's not as fast imo. His fight with Vamp was shown to be at a pace that while fast, wasn't near what Fox could do when he really applied himself.

And while Raiden's blade could be better suited for burning through something similar to a lightsaber. Fox's would be better for just opening a continuous gaping wound until the cut was done. It's the same concept as the vibroblade in star wars.

Vamp is a casual bullet-timer, hell, he was shown to be faster than Raiden in MGS2, Raiden himself could block bullets like Fox in that game. And he does the same in Rising.

Also stfu.

0mega Spawn TheWarmestSun
Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
fox goes invisible, slices raiden in half
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TH3_V01D Senior Member

Rising IS cannon.

Jack not only has extensive combat training and experience, his suit is a whole new level of technology. He would destroy FOX