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Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Now that you mention it, Ridley would likely be a boss.

That's what I thought too at first... until the Pokemon Rayquaza was revealed to be a boss.

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/modea/modea11.html

Why would Sakurai have 2 dragons as bosses?

I mean, sure. He had 2 hands as bosses in Melee (Master and Crazy Hand), but they were basically twins of each other. Ridley and Rayquaza on the other hand are not twins.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
It's not that he's not important; screw Dark Samus, Ridley is Samus's nemesis.

👆

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
He just seems to be too huge and uncontrollable to be playable.

Too huge you say? There's a thing called resizing. They did it with Bowser in Melee so he would become playable. They can do it with Ridley too.

Even in his largest state, Ridley was only able to take up the room of a small, narrow generator tunnel in Metroid Prime 3.

And what do you mean by uncontrollable?

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
How would he fit in? What would his moves be?

This video should explain it.

And no. I didn't make this.

YouTube video

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
The only thing I see that he has going for him is that he fits into the new gliding thing.

Yeah. That's how he would fly at least.

Originally posted by Kero_Co
Charizard isn't that popular, certainly not more popular than Ridley(about equal), although pokemon is more popular than metroid. If your wondering why that is, blame stealth rock, but as far as I know Infernape is more popular than Charizard, and he's behind Gyarados, Blissey,and Garchomp.

True, but as far as fire/flying types in the Pokemon universe go...

Ho-oh >>>>>>>>> Charizard

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Charizard is almost like the second most popular Pokemon next to Pikachu.

I thought Mewtwo was 😬, but whatever.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
WTF is Infernape?

The final evolution of the fire-type starter in Diamond/Pearl versions (for the DS).

Cosmic Cube I don't have any friends.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Charizard is like the second most popular Pokemon of all time...next to Pikachu. Ridley is no where near as popular as Charizard.

I said it first. 😛

Kero_Co One Track Lover

I am serious. Just because you know who someone is doesn't make them popular. There a still are few fanboys left that still love him, but that's the case for any fictional character.

Cosmic Cube I don't have any friends.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
That's what I thought too at first... until the Pokemon Rayquaza was revealed to be a boss....
...I thought Mewtwo was 😬, but whatever.
The final evolution of the fire-type starter in Diamond/Pearl versions (for the DS).

That's a hell of a lot of work you did there.

Good points. I'm just not sure if he'll make the cut.

Ho-oh is not more popular than Charizard.

Nah, Charizard beats Mewtwo in terms of popularity.

ESB -1138 Sonic Speed

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Too huge you say? There's a thing called resizing. They did it with Bowser in Melee so he would become playable. They can do it with Ridley too.
Even in his largest state, Ridley was only able to take up the room of a small, narrow generator tunnel in Metroid Prime 3.

Whoo dude...good job. You show small Mario next to Bowser instead of Super Mario next to Bowser. And besides...remember this fella?

Look how big Bowser is here.

Neo Darkhalen Mission zero

Good work R-P you have exceeded yourself once again.

Cosmic Cube I don't have any friends.

Originally posted by Kero_Co
I am serious. Just because you know who someone is doesn't make them popular. There a still are few fanboys left that still love him, but that's the case for any fictional character.

A few fanboys? I've never even heard of half the Pokemon you named. Charizard is much more recognizable than any of those Pokemon. He was on the cover of the first Pokemon Game. Get real.

He may not be your favorite, or your Pokemon-playing friend's favorite, but to the rest of the world, he's a franchise icon, second only to Pikachu in popularity.

And he's for damn sure more popular and more recognizable than Ridley.

Kero_Co One Track Lover

You haven't heard of half the pokemon I named because you haven't touched a pokemon game since first gen. Maybe he's not popular among my friends and I, but as far as I can tell at Serebii, Marriland, Libelldra, Smogon, and the Gamefaqs pokemon forum, he's really fallen behind in popularity. And pikachu? You can't go a day without someone talking about killing pikachu, and I never see it or charizard online.

Neo Darkhalen Mission zero

They are common pokemon.

Ridley_Prime Smug icon slayer

Originally posted by Kero_Co
I am serious. Just because you know who someone is doesn't make them popular. There a still are few fanboys left that still love him, but that's the case for any fictional character.

Indeed. 😬

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
That's a hell of a lot of work you did there.

Work? I wasn't the one who created that image or that video. 😛 (found that picture somewhere on google)

But yeah. After seeing that vid, you should get the point on how Ridley can be playable in Brawl.

Metroid needs more playable reps anyhow, besides Samus (and Zero Suit Samus doesn't count since she's just a dumbed down version of Shiek from Melee. I'm talking about a whole other Metroid character).

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Ho-oh is not more popular than Charizard.
Nah, Charizard beats Mewtwo in terms of popularity.

Charizard's way overrated then. Ho-oh and Mewtwo could both beat Charizard. Mewtwo even shrugged off Ash's Charizard's fire in the 1st movie.

"Your Charizard is poorly trained."
xd

Goes to show that popularity alone doesn't accurately define a character. 😬

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Whoo dude...good job. You show small Mario next to Bowser instead of Super Mario next to Bowser. And besides...remember this fella?
Look how big Bowser is here.

Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
Good work R-P you have exceeded yourself once again.

Thanks, I guess sweatdrop (to both of you).

Anyhow, yeah. Bowser in Sunshine was bigger than ANY version of Ridley as shown in the pic ESB posted, yet Bowser was still resized to be playable in Melee. 😄

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Charizard is much more recognizable than any of those Pokemon. He was on the cover of the first Pokemon Game.

He was on the cover of Fire Red version too (for the GBA).

Likewise though, Ridley was on the cover of Super Metroid and Zero Mission.

Originally posted by Kero_Co
but as far as I can tell at Serebii, Marriland, Libelldra, Smogon, and the Gamefaqs pokemon forum, he's really fallen behind in popularity.

Yeah. I noticed that too 😬 (even though I haven't been to all those places, as I'm only familiar with smogon, serebii, and gamefaqs). Charizard's popularity has gone down significantly at those sites, which I'm thankful for.

Originally posted by Kero_Co
And pikachu? You can't go a day without someone talking about killing pikachu

Indeed. 😄

I don't care if Pikachu's the main mascot of Pokemon, but I'm sick of that electric rat having all that merchandise made for him (like that N64 Pikachu where his cheecks light up when you turn the system on. Was ridiculous, even for a collector's item).

Neo Darkhalen Mission zero

Same here.

Cosmic Cube I don't have any friends.

Originally posted by Kero_Co
You haven't heard of half the pokemon I named because you haven't touched a pokemon game since first gen. Maybe he's not popular among my friends and I, but as far as I can tell at Serebii, Marriland, Libelldra, Smogon, and the Gamefaqs pokemon forum, he's really fallen behind in popularity. And pikachu? You can't go a day without someone talking about killing pikachu, and I never see it or charizard online.

I'm talking about recognizablility, foo, not how well he's liked in the Pokemon community.

Charizard is more recognizable than any pokemon other than Pikachu. That's why they're playable, and the others ain't.

And he is more recognizable than Ridley.

Neo Darkhalen Mission zero

Coffin, Charbuck, squirtle, Pikachu, Mewtwo, Mew, are the only Pokemon I remember oh and Abbra.

Cosmic Cube I don't have any friends.

Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
Coffin, Charbuck, squirtle, Pikachu, Mewtwo, Mew, are the only Pokemon I remember oh and Abbra.

Are you intentionally misspelling those names? Your memory can't be that bad. 😬

Cosmic Cube I don't have any friends.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Charizard's way overrated then. Ho-oh and Mewtwo could both beat Charizard. Mewtwo even shrugged off Ash's Charizard's fire in the 1st movie.
Thanks, I guess sweatdrop (to both of you).
He was on the cover of Fire Red version too (for the GBA).
Likewise though, Ridley was on the cover of Super Metroid and Zero Mission.

I never said Charizard could actually beat either of them. Just that he was more recognizable.

You didn't thank me. 😠

Like I said, Pokemon is more popular than Metroid.

Kero_Co One Track Lover

I'm talking about recognizablility, foo, not how well he's liked in the Pokemon community.
Charizard is more recognizable than any pokemon other than Pikachu. That's why they're playable, and the others ain't.
And he is more recognizable than Ridley.

Should have said that after this.

Originally posted by Kero_Co
I am serious. Just because you know who someone is doesn't make them popular. There still are few fanboys left that still love him, but that's the case for any fictional character.

Cosmic Cube I don't have any friends.

Originally posted by Kero_Co
Should have said that after this.

I see what you mean. Popularity is semi-synonymous with recognizability. I guess I wasn't being clear.

Neo Darkhalen Mission zero

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Are you intentionally misspelling those names? Your memory can't be that bad. 😬

yeah that was on purpose, but I can't remember any other pokemons, oh wait Snorlax there you go.

Ridley_Prime Smug icon slayer

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Charizard's way overrated then. Ho-oh and Mewtwo could both beat Charizard. Mewtwo even shrugged off Ash's Charizard's fire in the 1st movie.
"Your Charizard is poorly trained."
xd

Oh. Did I also mention that Charizard got pwned by Entei in the 3rd movie as well? 😛

Charizard's popularity makes him way overrated as a character, leading others to believe he's more powerful than he actually is.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Charizard is more recognizable than any pokemon other than Pikachu. That's why they're playable, and the others ain't.

That's kinda jumping to conclusions, since we don't know yet if Jigglypuff and Mewtwo will return or not.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
And he is more recognizable than Ridley.

I can admit to that, since Nintendo has never advertised Metroid as good as they have with Pokemon (not to mention, the Metroid movie was cancelled, whereas Pokemon has had 5+ movies, with Charizard being in most of them).

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
I never said Charizard could actually beat either of them. Just that he was more recognizable.

Oh, alright then.
Point taken.

After all, it's not like Ridley can't crush rocks or anything too. 😛

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
You didn't thank me. 😠

I... didn't? 🤨

Edit: *looks back*
Oh, you're right.

Sorry. I forgot.
Thank you too.

Neo Darkhalen Mission zero

They slap pokemon everywhere.