Originally posted by Soren the Mage
Based on AC and Gameplay, Cloud mops it with Squall.
Based on Gameplay Squall would stomp cloud.Squall gets limit break very fast sometimes it doesn't even require yellow health to do it.Lionheart>>anything Cloud can do.
yeah it is, lets compare AC to the opening movie, or any movie in the game for that matter. Cloud wins, he's faster and stronger, we'll even take squall's speed in account during his lionhart move, hm....nope cloud still wins. I'll even prove that with something they're both in, KH!
Cloud was placed in higher difficulty level tournament not to mention, cloud's Sonic Blade out speeds squall's Lionhart as well.
Cloud's faster and stronger? How and when did we ever see this? Oh great the state-of-the-art movie compared to the dated FFVIII. Great. Last time I checked Squall moves faster than Cloud does when Cloud performs the Omnislash. Hell I can't even count all the times 9999 pops up. Then Cloud and Sephiroth both get whooped by Sora. Please don't use KH for this. Aerith's alive in the game, and it is not canon.
Originally posted by Superboy Primealright, but i've played both, dont' think AC should be brought into it and still think that cloud stomps the living crap out of squall. Cloud moves so fast during him omnislash, you can barely even notice the transition between moves, however squall does his little "i'm mr. hot and sexy" poses several time during the lionhart, bounces around like a slower yoda, and actually does LESS damage than Cloud does. I used KH though because it seemed like the easiest way to convert a noob since both character are actually in it. I do agree however that Aeris just didn't belong in that game, and neither her nor Yuffie should've been traveling with Squall (or Leon). That was Square's attempt to take a mediocre character and turn it into a much more popular one by mixing him with the widely familiar Aeris.
Cloud's faster and stronger? How and when did we ever see this? Oh great the state-of-the-art movie compared to the dated FFVIII. Great. Last time I checked Squall moves faster than Cloud does when Cloud performs the Omnislash. Hell I can't even count all the times 9999 pops up. Then Cloud and Sephiroth both get whooped by Sora. Please don't use KH for this. Aerith's alive in the game, and it is not canon.
I think if they made a ff8 movie equivelent of Advent Children, you'd see Squall doing similar stuff to Cloud. Nothing in ff7 showed Cloud being able to do stuff he did in the movie. But you cant have a movie with cloud and sephiroth standing apart from each other, slashing with numbers popping up. So they made them all fight all cool stylish super style. If they did ff8 advent children or whatever they would call it, you'd see Squall performing similar feats.
Ponder this.
Lets compare game mechanics. Personally, I view them at an equal for this, but Ive heard a few people up here side with Squall on this one, so Ill go with this. When I say Game mechanics, Im talking about the sum of their attacks, weapons, armor, techniques, limits, etc, etc.
So we have.....
Squal game mechanics > Cloud game mechanics
Now, the problem is in AC, we see Cloud fighting with crazy amounts of power. But, in the movie towards the end, Tifa remarks that Cloud is fighting with the ferver that they all did before when fighting sephiroth. So if thats to be beleived, then the actions from the movie are ment to be representative of the game mechanics that they had at the end of the game. (just because they didnt have the technology to have the characters jump around like they do in AC, doesnt mean that Cloud and his enemies literally stood in one place while fighting)
So we have
Cloud game mechanics = Cloud Advent Children feats
and if THAT is true then....
Squall game mechanics > Cloud game mechanics = Cloud Advent Children feats
Which means Squall is the winner in the end.
Personally I think their game abilities are comparable, in which case it would be.
Squall game = Cloud game = Cloud Advent Children
And a draw
Squal and Cloud both appeared in Kingdom Heart's 1 and 2, after beating 2 and getting past Sephiroth you see Cloud fight like he does in advent children, where'as Squall.....well he kill's some heartless. granted he is badass while doing it.
at the Time Squall was better than Cloud on the ps1 platform, Lionheart did do more damage than omnislash. but Cloud obviosly improved, Squall hasnt demonstrated real improvement yet.
old school Squall takes Cloud
current Cloud takes Squall, until otherwise demonstrated
Originally posted by Onikirimaru
Well, it cant be really reliable because it has Mickey Mouse getting more kills than Squall.And thats what we call Plot Induced Stupidity.
OOooooo I went there. Here come the Kingdom Hearts fans.
Originally posted by Onikirimaru
Well, it cant be really reliable because it has Mickey Mouse getting more kills than Squall.And thats what we call Plot Induced Stupidity.
OOooooo I went there. Here come the Kingdom Hearts fans.
Ok fine KH can be thrown out, but I do dare say that mickey being more important to the story in KH might be why he got more kill's.
but all three were present at the hallow bastion brawl, no way to tell how many each got...either way
but hey they both own Tidus 😄