Vong Slayer Vs Marka Ragnos

Originally posted by tdtd
Why are you calling it the force? No, Sith Alchemy created Kun's amulet and Ragnos' scepter.. And yes Sith Alchemy is a brand of sith magic, I don't know why I said it wasn't.. Oh well. And no, I don't have the hots for anybody, but I do have a fan club and all the girls are on my taint anyways.

Lightning is classified as "magic" yet we see a Vong nudge it off.

Lightning isn't magic my friend. Lightning is a force power, nothing more. The Vong are immune to the force, not alterations, not Sith Alchemy/Magic.

Originally posted by tdtd
Lightning isn't magic my friend. Lightning is a force power, nothing more. The Vong are immune to the force, not alterations, not Sith Alchemy/Magic.

Vong immune to Force or at least so resistant that it has hardly any effect.

In that case Sith Alchemy!=Sith Magic.

this whole thread was made to make fun of me. you do all know that right?

Originally posted by Darth Avis
then how come in all of the 19 books in the series, only Elan used it?

Just because Elan was the only one that used it does not mean that others cannot.

Jakan possesed the ability to use BO'TUS.

And OMINI had the ability to produce deadly toxins. LEathal enough to kill people around him. We only dident see him use it because Jacen was able to neutralize them.

Originally posted by tdtd
Lightning isn't magic my friend. Lightning is a force power, nothing more. The Vong are immune to the force, not alterations, not Sith Alchemy/Magic.

And how exactly is Sith Alchemy made? How do they create Sith magic.

How in the world would I know?

Well, the force creates everything. Everything is felt through the force. It makes sense that they use the force to create "Magic."

I suppose in essence yes, but Sith Alchemy, although created by the force, can be used against the the Vong. The Vong are only resistant to force attacks.. Too much semantics.

True, but because they are resistant to force attacks we cant assume they are not resistant to Magic. They could be. Might not...

Ok but I still call force lightning a force attack, hence it's name. All of these normal everyday Jedi/Sith attacks are useless against the vong.

Didn't Kyp Durron use Force Strike on the Vong in one of the books?

Of course. But then what was Naga Sadow doing before his battle with Ludo. He was drawing some sort of lightning from the sword. I believe he was using the force to do so.

Originally posted by Motoko Sama
Didn't Kyp Durron use Force Strike on the Vong in one of the books?

Originally posted by Motoko Sama
Didn't Kyp Durron use Force Strike on the Vong in one of the books?

I believe Kyp had Vong Sense if he did do this.

Originally posted by Admiral Akbar
Of course. But then what was Naga Sadow doing before his battle with Ludo. He was drawing some sort of lightning from the sword. I believe he was using the force to do so.

I guess you can call that Sith Alchemy or Sith Magic I don't know, Ragnos' scepter had the same glow. But the point is the Vong are resistant to force attacks, not powerful swords powered by the dark side, force or not.

Im sure Ragnos could possibly deal with a slayer with some effort. He might have a difficult time with Shimmra though.. How did Luke kill the Overlord again?

I'm pretty sure he used his emerald lightning on it, which means 1 of two things.. Either

A. He created an attack so powerful in energy, that it got around the immunity to the force.
B. Pretty much like A, but designed specifically for beings immune to the force.

And I"m more than sure Ragnos could easily take down the overlord, as Ragnos was extremly powerful.

And Shimrra wasn't?

Originally posted by Lightsnake
And Shimrra wasn't?

Compared to an ancient Sith Lord ? No.

Those people moved pretty fast, put their swords through stone walls, tables and shattered them with bare hands. I don't think Shimrra has that kind of physical strength - not to mention the possibility to power up your natural physical strength using the force...