Maestro Vs Thanos

First of all this sounds ALMOST like a Spite thread, not totally, but a thread you made simply because you want someone to Beat Thanos....but hey i could be wrong, so I'll take that back.

Secondly, instead of trying to minimize Thanos, i think it would be helpful if you gave us some info on Maestro. WEll atleast it would help me, looking him up online is not enough, as online info only gives u general info, while you yourself could supply me with specific info as to why you think Maestro would stand a chance, therefore possibly convince me of it.

Also your statement about Thanos always needing IG, he only used it twice, so lay off. Thanos is an extemely intelligent, resourceful, powerful and multi-dimensional character, and he deserves a LIL more respect than what you have written about him in my opinion.

But thats besides the point, what more can Maestro do besides gain Hulk liek strength? Because that alone is not enough against Thanos, Thanos made an idiot out of Champion w power gem who was stronger than Hulk would EVER be.

Originally posted by mrichardson45
If you honestly think that Thanos would just mop the Maestro like nothing, I would say you are crazy!!!!!!!!!!!

Lets compare the two shale we?

[B]Physical Strength

Thanos - Class 100 level. He doesn't have the ability to increase his strength. Unless he gets the IG or Lady Death helps him.

Maestro - Class 200 level, and he gets stronger the madder he gets.

Smarts

Thanos - Very, very, very smart.

Maestro - Has banner smarts who is one of the smartest humans in the world. So I would have to say he is just as smart as Thanos. Just because Thanos goes throughout the universe, doesn't mean the Maestro isn't as smart. Hell, Dr. Doom was able to out smart the "Beyonder".

Energy Blast

Thanos - Can shot blast from eyes and hands.

Maestro - Can't shot blast.

Mind Attacks

Thanos - Not prone to mind attacks.

Maestro - Not prone to mind attacks either.

Durability

Thanos - His skin in nearly invulnerable, particularly against heat, cold, electricity, radiation, toxins, aging, and disease, and he can survive indefinitely without food or water.

Maestro - Not as durable, but has a healing factor that is AWESOME!!!!.

So, to say that Thanos would just mop the floor with someone who is just as physically strong and smart. You are smoking it man.

The reason why I say you have to ignore his accomplishments, is because comic book writing is all about "MAKING MONEY".
If a new character is successful in sales, then the writing will cause this character to accomplish even more things.

I am basically going off of there abilities alone, and not what the writers want me to think.

I laugh when you think that Thanos would just mop the floor with him.

If I was Maestro and you were Thanos. You would be nuts to think that you wouldn't be in a big fight against someone who is as strong as you, and as smart as you.

Hell, the Maestro might be able to get stronger than Thanos if his raged increased. [/B]

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Thanos made an idiot out of Champion w power gem who was stronger than Hulk would EVER be.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
First of all this sounds ALMOST like a Spite thread, not totally, but a thread you made simply because you want someone to Beat Thanos....but hey i could be wrong, so I'll take that back.

Secondly, instead of trying to minimize Thanos, i think it would be helpful if you gave us some info on Maestro. WEll atleast it would help me, looking him up online is not enough, as online info only gives u general info, while you yourself could supply me with specific info as to why you think Maestro would stand a chance, therefore possibly convince me of it.

Also your statement about Thanos always needing IG, he only used it twice, so lay off. Thanos is an extemely intelligent, resourceful, powerful and multi-dimensional character, and he deserves a LIL more respect than what you have written about him in my opinion.

But thats besides the point, what more can Maestro do besides gain Hulk liek strength? Because that alone is not enough against Thanos, Thanos made an idiot out of Champion w power gem who was stronger than Hulk would EVER be.

Nope, not a hate Thanos thread at all my friend.

Ok,

Goto this website.

killermovies.com/forums/f95/t354306.html

This is the hulk in the Savage form.

The Maestro is the best hulk of them all.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maestro_%28comics%29

He still has the ability to increase his strength with rage.

He also has taken on Warrior Madness Thor.

I am not saying that Thanos would lost to Maestro.

I am going by there "Abilities" mostly.

Maestro is no punk, and neither is thanos.

I personally think the Maestro would be able to handle his own with Thanos in a physical fight.

I have read about the Champion before.

He seems to be more of "fighter" with various martial arts he knowns around the universe.

But I have never read anyone where the champion has performed a great feat of strength like the Hulk has.

I could be wrong about that.

My whole point here, is that the Maestro has the "potential" in get stronger and stronger and stronger because he increases in strength as he rage goes up.

BUT, that's not the reason why I think he would handle his own with Thanos. He is very very smart. He has Banner's intellegence.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know thanos has been around for thousands of years.

But take Doctor Doom for example. He is still human, and probably one of the most smartest villians is the whole marvel universe.

So just because Thanos is older, and has been more places, doesn't mean that Maestro is not on his level in terms of smartest.
In fact, the writers haven't made that many Maestro stories.
So his character was never really given a chance to do the things Thanos have accomplished.

Thanos is a great warrior, but to honestly put him on some untouchable plaque is crazy IMO.

I just think with Maestro healing abilites, intellegence, and strength increasing factor. He will be able to give Thanos a run for his money.
I personally think that Thanos would try to out smart him instead of getting in a hand to hand battle with someone who can go toe to toe with him physically.

Like I said before. If the maestro can go toe to toe with
"Warrior Madness" Thor, who is like 10 times stronger than the current Thor. Here is a link to that.

leaderslair.com/noexcuses/hulk2-440.html

I personally just think that Maestro is the "localized" version of Thanos IMO.

It would be cool if they left him roam the whole universe.

Thanos outwits him like he does everyone. Thanos wins without lifting as much as a finger............

Originally posted by superman41082
Thanos outwits him like he does everyone. Thanos wins without lifting as much as a finger............

You need to go here.

killermovies.com/forums/f95/t354306.html

So what actually can Thanos do to him to kill him????

You guys say that we will win easy.
So what will he do to win easy?

Shoot him with his energy blast.
Hell, the normal Hulk can survive that?

This thread is absurd. Thanos is on an entirely different level of power. Maestro hit Thor as hard as he could and still couldn't hurt him so what the hell is he going to do to Thanos who is even tougher than Thor?

Also, Hulk never lifted an entire mountain range nor did he destroy an asteroid under his own power.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

Thanos wins 10/10; sorry just had to let that one out.

Okay i understand Bro.

But even if Champion was badly written, let's just say he had his martial arts knowledge in Thanos Quest, how do we know that Thanos didn't have more martial art knowledge?

We know for a fact that Thanos is a more skilled fighter than Darkseid, Silver Surfer and Superman.

PLUS Champion had the Power Gem, he was the ultamate in strength, in his rage he destroyed the planet the fought on and Thanos still survived.

Champion w Power Gem has 2 advantaged above Maestro Hulk:

1) Champion is probably a more skilled martial artists, it has nothing to do with scientific intelligence, it has to do with experience and exposure to other galactic cultures.

2) Champion was armed with Power Gem, an INFINITE source of might, therefore no other animalistic behemoth, even Hulk, would have been able to match his PURE strength.

Thanos beat Champion, so why wouldn't he beat this one the same?

Again, this is mostly my speculation and reference to another battle, feel free to correct any of my points without me feeling bad or ne thing lol

"Please don't tell me about Thanos accomplishments.
His accomplishments are whatever the writers want them to be,
so I am ignoring his accomplishments.

Besides, he usually cheats and gets the IG to really do some damage."

You already lose the topic then. What is really the point of asking opinions concerning a character you dont accept any accomplisment he had?

I have the strong feeling Maestro Hulk is being underrated... Don't ask me why... he's extremely strong, tough as hell, and has one of the best healing factors ever.

Thanos will NOT walk over this guy, no matter what his accomplishments are. I'm not saying Maestro will win, I am saying they will beat the crap out of each other. They are both ruthless and stubborn.

Thanos will only win because he is even smarter than Maestro Hulk, and has his power blasts.

Thanos is a lot smarter than Maestro, Banner's intelligence is just no where near Thanos, they are not compareable in the slightest on that front. Class 200 strength doesn't mean much either, we've never really seen the limits to Thanos' strength but its not like he is low-end Class 100 like Collosus or Thing, and hes strong enough to slap guys like regular Hulk, Drax and Champion around like they're nothing.

And then theres Maestro's healing factor, but Thanos is durable enough to hang with Odin in Asgard, hes no slouch in the durability department. So Maestro's biggest assests don't add up to much against Thanos, then on top of that Thanos has energy blasts, telepathic powers, matter manipulation, and a host of other powers that make this one sided.

Yes, not only that Wally West.

Banner's scientific intelligence will NOT help him in a FIST FIGHT.

Scientific intelligence is NOT martial art intelligence.

Thanos has learned different martial arts from different parts of the Universe, and has even trained GAMORA, the so called "deadliest woman in the universe".

Maestro's scientific intelligence means nothing in a BRAWL.....and it might not even be on PAR with Thanos' own sci intel.

Originally posted by mrichardson45
Ok,

But what is Thanos going to do to him to kill him completely.

His rehealing factor will bring him back to life.

And I think we all remember the secret wars with the "Savage Hulk" right?

The savage hulk lifted a 150 billion ton mountain.
The savage hulk has alone shattered a astraroid with his bare fist.
The savage hulk has also destroyed the pit of flame.
I can't remember it's exact name.

If he is capable of doing it, then that means the Maestro is capable if the rage is great enough.

I think you guys are forgetting that the Maestro have been absorbing gamma radiation for years. So he is highly evolved then your normal hulk.

Also, of course he hasn't fought the Tyrant.

He has only been in a few comics.
The writers didn't make him a mainstream character like Thanos.
So he never had time to make any accomplishments.

It's funny how so many Vs threads are based on what the stories the writers has already created for us.

If we are going to go by with what the writers created for us, then why even have a VS board, and just let us wait for the writers to tell us who is the greatest of them all.

I am going by there abiities.

Thanos would not be able to just stop the Maestro in a physical fight like nothing. He would have to get aid from something that is not normally in his power arsenal. Such as getting the IG, help from lady death, or some type of power will would prevent The Maestor healing system to rebuild himself over and over and over again.

The Maestro is a highly advanced Hulk. His abilites are all greater then the normal Hulk.

So I don't see what Thanos would do to Maestro with his healing factor regenerating him over and over again.

If he got the UN from Galactus, then it would be over for the Maestro. But I just don't see his cosmic energy blast, physical hands or fighting skilling killing the Maestro for good.

Too many people kiss Thanos azz, because the writers make you kiss his azz. They have defined to you how great the wanted his character to be.

Originally posted by godking
Maestro is great but Thanos is above him except healing Maestro does not have any real advantages of Thanos.

Maestro is not class 200, that was made up. It's been said that Maestro is twice as strong as Professor Hulk, who is class 100. But for all we know, Professor can lift/press 500 tons or more(it's still class 100). Then that would make Maestro capable of lifting 1000 tons. We'll probably never know.

lol at Class 200.

People love to retcon things themselves, don't they? If that's the case, you need to make your own comics because if you even try to retcon something, then the same would work for the opposing view.

However, I would like to see this match as I am a Hulk and Thanos fan. But of course it would end in.."THANOS REIGNS!"

Question, is Silver Surfer defeating Champion considered PIS?

Originally posted by who?-kid
I have the strong feeling Maestro Hulk is being underrated... Don't ask me why... he's extremely strong, tough as hell, and has one of the best healing factors ever.

Thanos will NOT walk over this guy, no matter what his accomplishments are. I'm not saying Maestro will win, I am saying they will beat the crap out of each other. They are both ruthless and stubborn.

Thanos will only win because he is even smarter than Maestro Hulk, and has his power blasts.

THANK YOU MAN.

People really are under estimating this guy big time.

Originally posted by supervenom
lol at Class 200.

People love to retcon things themselves, don't they? If that's the case, you need to make your own comics because if you even try to retcon something, then the same would work for the opposing view.

However, I would like to see this match as I am a Hulk and Thanos fan. But of course it would end in.."THANOS REIGNS!"

It's been stated that the Maestro is "TWICE" as strong as the professor hulk. Which means he starts off as around 200 tons.
He also has the rage factor that his strength increases as his rage increases.

Also, let's take a long at the "REGULAR" hulk accomplishments.

Please visit

killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=354306&perpage=20&highlight=&pagenumber=1

If you look at this forum, is shows you that the regular hulk as survived 4 NUKES at once. Survived Gamma bombs and a ton of other stuff without being scratched!!!!!!!! He also was able to take on the Surfer and Namor at the same time. This is the "SAVAGE" mainstream hulk man.

Now Maestro can do the same things as this hulk, but he has Banner's smarts.

Here is a link for Maestro.

hulknews.com/hulkdatabase/maestro.php

Here is a quote from the site'

In this "Hell" Bruce Banner spoke to the Maestro. The Maestro told him that no matter how long they die, given enough time they will always come back. He explained that the reason Bruce could always find the gamma bomb site is because Maestro's spirit was calling him there and his remains soak up gamma rays from his body, slowing reforming itself.

At the end, they ended this character being put under a bunch of debris.

BUT, they never declared him dead, because he really can't die either.

So here is my argument with the whole thing.

You takes the Non Maestro Hulk's accomplishments above.
The Maestro, could accomplish the same things if the writers choose to make him a mainstream character, and it would be BELIEVEABLE by the fans.

So to say that Thanos would mop him like nothing is CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!