Maestro Vs Thanos

Started by TheKahn6 pages

Originally posted by Crease
People don't seem to realize that Maestro has no defense for the majority of ways The Mad Titan could defeat him. With the exception of physical force.

[QUOTE=6526409]Originally posted by Bunker
[B]"Some of the feats listed to Thanos advantages has occurred very few times and some is linked to his technical equipment. I'm not claiming to be right, I'm sure some one has read more of Thanos than me and can correct me. Here's my view on Thanos feats:

[B]Teleportation
Thanos can teleport, but only "short" distances and this is a invention of his, not a natural ability. He was banned by Nebula to "forever float in the depths of space" in the IG series, shouldn't he have been able to teleport himself away if it were a natural ability? Of course, Nebula had the Infinity Gauntlet and could have removed that ability, but I have never seen Thanos use the teleporter as an offensive weapon."

I'd have to dig into the crates to prove it to you, but Eternals can teleport thru their own personal power. They use others (like Pip the troll) or tech only because it's easier and less stressful. Also, Thanos has voice-activated tech built into his suit for porting, such as he used in the fight against Champion. And "a short distance" could easily place Maestro inside an active volcano.

As to why he didn't teleport while floating in space...who knows. It's not like he can't survive indefinitely in space, so why be in a rush to go anywhere? The Mad Titan's known to sit and ponder whatever it is conquerers ponder. If I'd suffered a defeat of that magnitude I'd be reviewing game tape to see where I went wrong. Maybe this was his "me time" 🙂

"Matter manipulation
He turned a skrull into stone, but has since then never been seen to use the ability since (remember, from what I know!). This feat was used when Thanos was young as a character and his powers were not decided. He has had plenty of opportunities to use this skill and been in need of them."

He hasn't used it often for the same reason Magneto doesn't stop the flow of everyone's blood, Supes doesn't speedblitz everybody and Wonder Woman doesn't just lasso every criminal instead of letting the police interrogate...writers have pages to fill. In addition, lots of Thanos foes are herald-level and above, meaning they have at least a little control over their molecular structure.

"Mind powers
Yes, he has engaged Galactus, and for a moment he had him on the ropes. But, not due to his psionic powers. The world eater stated that Thanos tricked him:When Galactus then assaulted Thanos he fled the battlefield. And as of resisting Moon Dragons mental probing, it was stated by Moon Dragon her self that she could not read the minds of any member of the Infinity Watch, which the Titan was secretly a member of.

The part about Nate Grey I'm not familiar with. I do know that he toyed with Drax, but any "real" attacks he's mustered has been with the aid of the Soul Gem or a third party (Moon Dragon, Prof X)."

On multiple occasions psionics have attempted to read The Mad Titan's mind and been rendered unconscious. Seeing as how I'm at work and the proof is at home, hopefully someone else has some scans for you.

I haven't taken the time to figure out how to post spoilers, but The Mad Titan did something to The Fallen one in his miniseries that he should easily be able to do to Maestro. Don't want to give it away, but most would be impressed.

"About the physical strength, I would just like to add that when he beat the Surfer to death he wore the IG, so we can't know for sure that this feat was of his own strength."

I don't remember him having the gauntlet when this happened. To your defense, Thanos stated in the Thanos Quest storyline that he had avoided a physical confrontation with the Hulk for years. Probably because he knows Hulk could physically stand up to him if the fight was to go on long enough. But the odds of Maestro pulling a victory even in a purely physical fight are less than 1/10, simply because Thanos can always augment his physical might with cosmic energy. [/B]

Just to add some scans to the points you brought up (all scans are from the Thanos respect thread http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t356352.html ):

Possible non-technology based teleportation feat:
http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=black11bj.jpg
http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=black20rx.jpg

A rare healing feat which could be considered matter manipulation
http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=heal2un.jpg

Skrull into stone:
http://img96.imageshack.us/my.php?image=skragg5zb.jpg

K.O.'s the Silver Surfer without IG:
http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=surfer29io.jpg
http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=surfer11tn.jpg
http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=surfer34as.jpg
http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=surfer48sz.jpg

Originally posted by TheKahn
Just to add some scans to the points you brought up (all scans are from the Thanos respect thread http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t356352.html ):

Possible non-technology based teleportation feat:
http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=black11bj.jpg
http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=black20rx.jpg

A rare healing feat which could be considered matter manipulation
http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=heal2un.jpg

Skrull into stone:
http://img96.imageshack.us/my.php?image=skragg5zb.jpg

K.O.'s the Silver Surfer without IG:
http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=surfer29io.jpg
http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=surfer11tn.jpg
http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=surfer34as.jpg
http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=surfer48sz.jpg

Thanks 😎

i don't like Thanos. he's a dick

As much I like the hulk, he's not going to beat a skyfather like being in Thanos, bottom line. Thanos as eternal can increase his abilities like his earth counter parts, since Thanos has two upgrades by Death herself Thanos is to powerful for Hulk, and Thanos will not be stupid enought to get into brawl with the Maestro hulk, Thanos hasn't lived for 10,000 years for nothing. Unless Maestro Hulk hets the water of life Thanos will smoke the Hulk all around. Thanos 10/10

ThAyNoEZ PwNZxOrZ!

Originally posted by Crease
People don't seem to realize that Maestro has no defense for the majority of ways The Mad Titan could defeat him. With the exception of physical force.

[QUOTE=6526409]Originally posted by Bunker
[B]"Some of the feats listed to Thanos advantages has occurred very few times and some is linked to his technical equipment. I'm not claiming to be right, I'm sure some one has read more of Thanos than me and can correct me. Here's my view on Thanos feats:

[B]Teleportation
Thanos can teleport, but only "short" distances and this is a invention of his, not a natural ability. He was banned by Nebula to "forever float in the depths of space" in the IG series, shouldn't he have been able to teleport himself away if it were a natural ability? Of course, Nebula had the Infinity Gauntlet and could have removed that ability, but I have never seen Thanos use the teleporter as an offensive weapon."

I'd have to dig into the crates to prove it to you, but Eternals can teleport thru their own personal power. They use others (like Pip the troll) or tech only because it's easier and less stressful. Also, Thanos has voice-activated tech built into his suit for porting, such as he used in the fight against Champion. And "a short distance" could easily place Maestro inside an active volcano.

As to why he didn't teleport while floating in space...who knows. It's not like he can't survive indefinitely in space, so why be in a rush to go anywhere? The Mad Titan's known to sit and ponder whatever it is conquerers ponder. If I'd suffered a defeat of that magnitude I'd be reviewing game tape to see where I went wrong. Maybe this was his "me time" 🙂

"Matter manipulation
He turned a skrull into stone, but has since then never been seen to use the ability since (remember, from what I know!). This feat was used when Thanos was young as a character and his powers were not decided. He has had plenty of opportunities to use this skill and been in need of them."

He hasn't used it often for the same reason Magneto doesn't stop the flow of everyone's blood, Supes doesn't speedblitz everybody and Wonder Woman doesn't just lasso every criminal instead of letting the police interrogate...writers have pages to fill. In addition, lots of Thanos foes are herald-level and above, meaning they have at least a little control over their molecular structure.

"Mind powers
Yes, he has engaged Galactus, and for a moment he had him on the ropes. But, not due to his psionic powers. The world eater stated that Thanos tricked him:When Galactus then assaulted Thanos he fled the battlefield. And as of resisting Moon Dragons mental probing, it was stated by Moon Dragon her self that she could not read the minds of any member of the Infinity Watch, which the Titan was secretly a member of.

The part about Nate Grey I'm not familiar with. I do know that he toyed with Drax, but any "real" attacks he's mustered has been with the aid of the Soul Gem or a third party (Moon Dragon, Prof X)."

On multiple occasions psionics have attempted to read The Mad Titan's mind and been rendered unconscious. Seeing as how I'm at work and the proof is at home, hopefully someone else has some scans for you.

I haven't taken the time to figure out how to post spoilers, but The Mad Titan did something to The Fallen one in his miniseries that he should easily be able to do to Maestro. Don't want to give it away, but most would be impressed.

"About the physical strength, I would just like to add that when he beat the Surfer to death he wore the IG, so we can't know for sure that this feat was of his own strength."

I don't remember him having the gauntlet when this happened. To your defense, Thanos stated in the Thanos Quest storyline that he had avoided a physical confrontation with the Hulk for years. Probably because he knows Hulk could physically stand up to him if the fight was to go on long enough. But the odds of Maestro pulling a victory even in a purely physical fight are less than 1/10, simply because Thanos can always augment his physical might with cosmic energy. [/B]

Game.Set.Match.

great post.

the thanos that dodged hulk hadnt had 2 upgrades, like the one now has.

The thing is, he doesn't need to dodge Hulk. He can go toe to toe with him.

Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
The thing is, he doesn't need to dodge Hulk. He can go toe to toe with him.
u cant tell me about thanos, you might have him in your sig... but i write college thesis papers about the man, I am the Thanos fanboy.

Originally posted by King KAM
u cant tell me about thanos, you might have him in your sig... but i write college thesis papers about the man, I am the Thanos fanboy.

Being a fanboy doesn't mean you know anything about a character. Look at Mider for example.

Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
Being a fanboy doesn't mean you know anything about a character. Look at Mider for example.
mider is an idiot

Glad to have people on here like King Kam 😄

yeah

Well, Maestro can't say I didn't try lol.

who you calling an idiot i never did anything to you kam so leave my name out of your comments and grow up godscribe i dont resort to childish remarks as much as you and your five year old education level.