Superboy Prime vs. The Void

Originally posted by Priest
How so?
He for a long time has been using matter manipulation to form reform him self subconsciously. The MM incident was a chance for him to realize what he really can do, and it gave him the opportunity master his new power.

If Ares couldn't be put down with physical force, Sentry would if utilize his new powers. Molecule Man cant be put down by normal means which is why he had to use another means to defeat him.

Yeah he used his power on himself and another mm user 😐. When is he gonna use his power on "normal" people like Thor? I think he can't but we will see, patience. Till then I think he isn't capable of doing it to people whose molecules are rather "normal".

WTF are with the dozen or so salt references today? Is KMC hungry? Not enough iodine in the diet? What is it?

Originally posted by Enyalus
WTF are with the dozen or so salt references today? Is KMC hungry? Not enough iodine in the diet? What is it?

They're trying to spice it up, baby!!

Originally posted by Prep-Man
They're trying to spice it up, baby!!

what do you think about matter manipulation working on Prime? It's never been done before.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
what do you think about matter manipulation working on Prime? It's never been done before.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
what do you think about matter manipulation working on Prime? It's never been done before.

I personally don't see it as a very viable way to win. Even if said manipulation is the et all reasoning behind how and why Sentry can do what he can do, he has yet (even as Voided out) displayed he can matter manipulate on a whim, so there's no reason to suggest he'll do so in a fight against Prime, at least not right now. Maybe when Siege concludes or during Dark Avengers, they'll shed more light on it, but to date it seems like a plot device power he used once on Molecule Man, which doesn't even make a whole hell of a lot of sense to begin with.

EDIT: As far as matter manipulation in general working on Prime, I'd be inclined to believe that a powerful matter manipulator would be able to harm Prime via this method, but iirc, current Superman has displayed some mild resistance to such a technique, so it wouldn't be out of the question for Prime to be more fortified against it. In any case, I don't see Sentry trying to turn Prime into something else or warp him or anything like that.

Prime isn't the normal comic character. He's from our world, which is why some attacks hardly work.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
what do you think about matter manipulation working on Prime? It's never been done before.

If Voidtry uses it.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I really hope that people aren't claiming that Voidtry turns Prime into a pillar of salt or something else stupid considering he hardly ever offensively uses matter manipulation in such a way.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Sentry defeated MM with molecular manipulation but this might have been just possible because MM is himself an molecular manipulator. Till Sentry takes down someone whose power isn't molecular manipulation WITH molecular manipulation it's nothing worth considering. Physically he seems to have big problems and this is where SBP shines.

SBP wins. Fatality. Flawless Victory.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
No but the circumstances of this "feat" might have been unique.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I think if it worked on the freakin' [b]Molecule Man, it'll work on Prime.

If Voidtry uses it. [/B]

Originally posted by Enyalus
I think if it worked on the freakin' [b]Molecule Man, it'll work on Prime.

If Voidtry uses it. [/B]

You also have to take into consideration that outside of molecular manipulation, Owen's durability is quite low. Taking into account someone being able to override his power (which, as most have stated, he was a far cry from his higher showings), once that happens, his durability has next to no defense from any outside forces. Prime's durability is ridiculous in of itself.

And of course, this is all assuming Sentry offensively uses his matter manipulation in the first place.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
You also have to take into consideration that outside of molecular manipulation, Owen's durability is quite low. Taking into account someone being able to override his power (which, as most have stated, he was a far cry from his higher showings), once that happens, his durability has next to no defense from any outside forces. Prime's durability is ridiculous in of itself.

And of course, this is all assuming Sentry offensively uses his matter manipulation in the first place.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not that he can't though. It's like t-vo it's a rarely used feat which won't receive much play from here on out.

Even if he can manipulate matter, him being able to manipulate matter doesn't translate into him being able to do effortlessly what people are claiming him being able to do. Transmute the battlefield into glue? Turn Prime into salt? That's like claiming any pyrokinetic can set the o-zone ablaze or that any telepath can synch up with the entire planet or that any super-speedster can move FTL. T-Vo is about as plot device as you can get anyway, imo. Unless CIS is removed, I have no reason to think Sentry is just going to start screwing with people's atoms and even then, he hasn't used it in a way to illustrate he can do it on a level that some people would claim.

As it is, both Prime and Sentry are going to, more often than not, slug it out.

I think Superman himself has resisted matter manipulation by Lord Satanus in his own realm. And he's pretty damn powerful in his own realm.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
I think Superman himself has resisted matter manipulation by Lord Satanus in his own realm. And he's pretty damn powerful in his own realm.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If he attempts it do you honestly see Prime resisting it?

Honestly, I'd have to see Sentry using matter manipulating directly a whole hell of a lot more to consider it a viable tactic. Depending on how he uses it and to what degree, it could do anything from aggravate Prime to mess his world up. There's way too many gray areas and questions about Sentry's power set to be able to simply claim "lulz, he matter manips FTW".

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Even if he can manipulate matter, him being able to manipulate matter doesn't translate into him being able to do effortlessly what people are claiming him being able to do. Transmute the battlefield into glue? Turn Prime into salt? That's like claiming any pyrokinetic can set the o-zone ablaze or that any telepath can synch up with the entire planet or that any super-speedster can move FTL. T-Vo is about as plot device as you can get anyway, imo. Unless CIS is removed, I have no reason to think Sentry is just going to start screwing with people's atoms and even then, he hasn't used it in a way to illustrate he can do it on a level that some people would claim.

As it is, both Prime and Sentry are going to, more often than not, slug it out.

With that being said I think the Sentry can reform from whatever injuries he accrues and wear him down.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
I think Superman himself has resisted matter manipulation by Lord Satanus in his own realm. And he's pretty damn powerful in his own realm.

I actually think full Void Sentry wins mostly due to the fact that if Prime gets covered in black tentacles he'll go all crybaby "I want my night-light" mode.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I agree in character Sentry won't do it right out of the gate. I bet he won't attempt it on Thor. But I do think if he does he can negate and destroy Prime easily.

With that being said I think the Sentry can reform from whatever injuries he accrues and wear him down. I also have another instance of him being killed and turned into salt if I remember correctly. Do you think Superman can resist MM?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I actually think full Void Sentry wins mostly due to the fact that if Prime gets covered in black tentacles he'll go all crybaby "I want my night-light" mode.

Wasn't said incident the work of Spectre-Asmodel? Spectre-Asmodel>>>Sentry

Originally posted by quanchi112
The point is Superman can still easily be killed. I also have seen the Spectre easily overcome by a black ring which I wouldn't see happening to the Void Sentry personally. Point is Superman can be manipulated and has been on panel.