Rule of Tow

Started by Jam-Jul_Lison8 pages
Originally posted by Lightsnake
Even when his Sithiness was public knowledge, there was never a Darth title until TPM

I am not saying that we do now owe Lucas for that. But it still fits in with the story. Knowledge of the Sith was almost completly lost and no one knew Palpatine's sith name. I do not think Palpatine would have told Mara Jade secrets like that. To him she was just an expendable pawn for him to use. So everyone assumed Darth was part of Vader's name. As for them not being able to find answers in the jedi archives when coruscant was eventualy retaken, Palpatine had already seen to it that the archives were destroyed. So instead they just refered to him as the name they knew him by.

Originally posted by Jam-Jul_Lison
So everyone assumed Darth was part of Vader's name.

Err...what ?
Obi-Wan and Yoda both knew that "Darth" was a Sith title so why should they handle it like a part of Vader's name ? And their must have been quite some people knowing that Palpatine was a Sith Lord named Darth Sidious. Namely Bail Organa and the Senators that were part of the Rebellion, some members of the CIS that survived the Clone Wars.

Another SW plothole. Since I've seen ROTS for the first time I keep wondering why Chewie doesn't recall Yoda's name in the OT films...and much more how Han can have doubts about the Jedi, their powers and the force when his own co-pilot has seen them in actual combat on Kashyyyk...

This is not a plot hole you can blame on the EU. Lucas himself created those plot holes. The authors of the EU were just going by the info that Lucas had given them to work with. To deny the EU because Lucas goes and makes mistakes is no reason to deny them. If anyone is at fault then it is Lucas. Not only does he contradict the EU he even contradicts the OT. I do not think Chewie would keep quiet to Han about the Jedi. He would be more honest with Han then anyone. Han would know Chewie would not lie to him.

Palpatine is directly named n both the Glove of Darth Vader series, the OT novelizations and Dark Empire

Lucas has every right to contradict EU, Jam-Jul. He could tell someone that all of EU is fake and say 'Actually, here's what happened!' and it'd all be destroyed and no one could do anything about it.

ANH made it seem like the Jedi had been gone for decades, and not just two. However, Han can still think it's a load of shit and hocus pocus however much he wants. Doesn't matter if he's seen them himself or if Chewie has, it's a matter of his beliefs. Hell, in a Star Wars Tales comic, Quilan Vos lifts him up with the Force and he still thinks it's a load of shit.

Lucas genereally wouldn't contradict the EU to such a degree, and I could believe Han is that much a cynic, especially as said story may or may not be infinities

He wouldn't, but he could...

With Tales, I throw it into a 'If it's not contradicted by other EU or anything else...' perspective.

Well, not yet, anyways, so Ghost's canonical status is unknown.

And Lucas, at times, does-or did- take interest in the EU at times

Every once and awhile. I wonder what he thinks of Legacy...oh, that'll be a doozy for him...

He gave consent for it. hell, he gave a specific go ahead and even defined some boundaries

Eh, whatever. Well, down with the Rule of Two, then!

Well, at that point in time, since it's a new Order entirely without a need for secrecy...Palpatine kinda say '***** the Rule of Two' Himself

Palpatine only had one serious Sith apprentice at a time, just had a lot of assassins and handymen that he trained a bit. He kept the Rule of Two in effect.

Darth Krayt, though, Rule of Two is dead with him.

Lumiya still ain't a Sith, to me. Vader gave her some training, but hell, when she appears in the Legacy of the Force series, she admits she can't be a Sith! That's the only thing that made my day about reading those spoilers. Everything else made me want to slaughter the author.

hardly that bad...it's not like Krayt's mr. mondo Sith Lord...PAlp will always be the last and truest Sith. Jacen, though, he has the potential to do some damage

I'm still wondering why they can't just let Luke enjoy a few decades of rest before passing away peacefully. His life pretty much sucks after ROTJ.

More or less, I don't think he's had a month to just relax at all since he got married

Joy for Skywalker. 😐

Ushgarak I am very tired of you calling the movies final word GL reads and approves all the novels therefore that automatically makes it the final word so just stop being an idiot and go talk on the movie forums and i can just create a new name with an alise if you kick me off for this comment

I apologise for my comment there because i have been away from my computer for the weekend which often happens so i was reading through what was said over the weekend and Ush pissed me off so i made that comment

Well, regarding GL's word on a given matter, he's right.