The JSA vs The JLA

Originally posted by He-guy88
no im askin a valdid question (if wally could go faster then speed off light he couldent see cause hed be going faster then light its self) so is that a yes or no

🤨 Whoa dude, you seriously need to look into comic book "reality" or their lack of it. If you wanted to use real-world logic, than an object cannot go faster than the speed of light because it's molecules would become infinitely massive. Wally goes 100's of times faster than the speed of light for his top speed. You can't think of everything in real-world science, because none of that applies to comics. ❌ Anyways, yes, Wally goes much faster than Barry. ✅

Originally posted by Validus
Actually you're wrong. Wally can go as fast as he wants without being pulled into the Speedforce because he has an anchor to this world (his wife).

Post Crisis canon says Wally is faster than anyone before him, including Barry.

well wats that mean cause looks like thats wat ur sayin if hes not usein it the hes not

Originally posted by He-guy88
well wats that mean cause looks like thats wat ur sayin if hes not usein it the hes not

Originally posted by batdude123
🤨 Whoa dude, you seriously need to look into comic book "reality" or their lack of it. If you wanted to use real-world logic, than an object cannot go faster than the speed of light because it's molecules would become infinitely massive. Wally goes 100's of times faster than the speed of light for his top speed. You can't think of everything in real-world science, because none of that applies to comics. ❌ Anyways, yes, Wally goes much faster than Barry. ✅

Originally posted by He-guy88
yes i get that

no im sayin i get wat ur sayin i realy do but if barry went so fast that the speed force could not protect him then how can wally go faster then that
if u can explane that to me then i might belive u

Originally posted by He-guy88
no im sayin i get wat ur sayin i realy do but if barry went so fast that the speed force could not protect him then how can wally go faster then that
if u can explane that to me then i might belive u

any on wanna exlpain it to me

Originally posted by Validus
I say JLA. I don't see the Society taking a majority without a Dr. Fate in their ranks. He's the sole reason why I've usually considered the JSA a notch above the League.

I'd say Jakeem Thunder is a more powerful member then Dr. Fate 🙂

Originally posted by dman2008
I'd say Jakeem Thunder is a more epowerful member then Dr. Strange 🙂

Please, Dr. Strange is easily the most powerful member of the JSA 😖hifty: . Everyone know that. 😉

Originally posted by TheKahn
Please, Dr. Strange is easily the most powerful member of the JSA 😖hifty: . Everyone know that. 😉

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I meant Dr. Fate

yea i say dr fate

Originally posted by He-guy88
any on wanna exlpain it to me

I'll try although I'm not as up to date on my Flash mythos as I perhaps should be and if I'm wrong hopefully a more knowledgable person can correct it. First keep in mind that when all speedsters exceed a certain speed they run the risk of being sucked into the speed force. That is what happened to Barry during the crisis. It isn't that he went so fast the speed force no longer protected him but that he actually merged with it. Now Wally is different. He is able to exceed that speed and not be trapped in the speed force because his wife somehow anchors him in this world.

To the question of who is faster, you must keep in mind that Barry (iirc) was never aware of the existance of the speed force as the concept of it was introduced after his death. Wally not only knows it exists but knows how to use and manipulate it. Thus he is the faster of the Flashs.

Originally posted by batdude123
GL Kyle could actually give GL Alan a run for his money. Kyle is considered the most creative GL ever, so he could probably think of something. While I think Alan is more of a blend of Hal and Kyle, I think he would be given a good fight considering he's a GL here, and not in Sentinel form. Manhunter and Aquaman could easily shut the minds off of Stargirl, Hawkgirl, and Hawkman. From there, Cap Marvel and Superman fights always are good ones, I think Wonder Woman could assist Superman there to overwhelm Shazam. And Wally trumps Garrick ANY DAY OF THE WEEK. Jay is seriously WAY slower than Wally, he would lose badly. Without Dr. Fate or Alan Scott in his Sentinel form, I don't see how the JSA could pull this one off.

^^^ 😄

Originally posted by TheKahn
I'll try although I'm not as up to date on my Flash mythos as I perhaps should be and if I'm wrong hopefully a more knowledgable person can correct it. First keep in mind that when all speedsters exceed a certain speed they run the risk of being sucked into the speed force. That is what happened to Barry during the crisis. It isn't that he went so fast the speed force no longer protected him but that he actually merged with it. Now Wally is different. He is able to exceed that speed and not be trapped in the speed force because his wife somehow anchors him in this world.

To the question of who is faster, you must keep in mind that Barry (iirc) was never aware of the existance of the speed force as the concept of it was introduced after his death. Wally not only knows it exists but knows how to use and manipulate it. Thus he is the faster of the Flashs.

That is basically correct. 😉

Originally posted by dman2008
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I meant Dr. Fate

Sure you did 😛 . I should have expected something like that from a member of the JLA KMC. 😉

Originally posted by TheKahn
I'll try although I'm not as up to date on my Flash mythos as I perhaps should be and if I'm wrong hopefully a more knowledgable person can correct it. First keep in mind that when all speedsters exceed a certain speed they run the risk of being sucked into the speed force. That is what happened to Barry during the crisis. It isn't that he went so fast the speed force no longer protected him but that he actually merged with it. Now Wally is different. He is able to exceed that speed and not be trapped in the speed force because his wife somehow anchors him in this world.

To the question of who is faster, you must keep in mind that Barry (iirc) was never aware of the existance of the speed force as the concept of it was introduced after his death. Wally not only knows it exists but knows how to use and manipulate it. Thus he is the faster of the Flashs.

i veary much apprecate ur expalnation and it does make sence but if berry was able to do as wally not being sucked in and all then i think that hed win

Originally posted by He-guy88
i veary much apprecate ur expalnation and it does make sence but if berry was able to do as wally not being sucked in and all then i think that hed win

No problem at all. 😄
But I'd still tend to go with Wally in a fight even if all other things were even (ie Barry knew of the speed force's existence and was equally as adept as Wally at using it). The difference between the two, besides shear speed, is that fact that Wally a lot more experience as a speedster. Remember that Barry got his powers as an adult while Wally got his at adolescence.

Originally posted by TheKahn
No problem at all. 😄
But I'd still tend to go with Wally in a fight even if all other things were even (ie Barry knew of the speed force's existence and was equally as adept as Wally at using it). The difference between the two, besides shear speed, is that fact that Wally a lot more experience as a speedster. Remember that Barry got his powers as an adult while Wally got his at adolescence.

veary true

So we all agree that the JLA win, right?

yeah i agree if were going by the line up on here