Exar Kun vs DN Luke

Because an attack designed to attack wouldn't work if applied to a different situation? That's lunacy. Ok, Force lightning won't work on a Barabel.

Uh... I can't believe I'm explaining this. It's like Star Wars for Dummies.. Ok lets try.. In the galaxy, everything exists around the force and in the force, which is why sith lightning attacks and force attacks work on everybody. The Vong are NOT of this galaxy, and have been stripped from the force, removed, not part of it, outside of it, whatever you want to call it. We have had NUMEROUS arguments about this already, stop arguing against logic. A force attack will not work on someone outside of the force.

Except the Vong are part of the Force, jusst on a different level, which Luke and others rediscover. That is IN THe NJO, get it through your head.

Another level of the force? They were stripped FROM THE FORCE from something Zenot, the planet itself. They can be on any level they want, but they have been removed from it, hence why force attacks don't work on them, whether they are on another level or not, which is why it's more logical to assume Emerald Lightning was specifically designed for the VONG and that youre committing numerous logical fallacies with your speculation and illogical assumptions.

It's impossible to exist outside the force, pal. They were blocked from it, that's all and the FInal Prophecy and Destiny's Way, as well as Traitor goes over this in EXPLICIT DETAIL, stop arguing witht he books when you have not even read them.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
It's impossible to exist outside the force, pal. They were blocked from it, that's all and the FInal Prophecy and Destiny's Way, as well as Traitor goes over this in EXPLICIT DETAIL, stop arguing witht he books when you have not even read them.

The force exists in THAT GALAXY, pal. They were from OUTSIDE OF THE GALAXY, pal. They were blocked to the force, thereby making force attacks against them useless, pal. Thank you for supporting my argument.

No, the Force exists in EVERYTHING THAT LIVES. Destiny's Way explicitly states the Vong do exist in the force, even if the Jedi can't sense them. Explain Onimi and Vongerella.

Ok what don't you understand? They have been blocked from the force, stripped, removed, whatever. THEREFORE FORCE ATTACKS DO NOT WORK ON THEM BECAUSE OF THIS. I don't know how to be clearer on this subject. Let me make 1 more example that will completely destroy your argument, AGAIN, yet you'll continue to argue against facts. A good example of what would happen is in the Thrawn triloogy, the Ysalamiri I believe.. They cause little bubbles to block the force, which is why Joruus sends force lightning at Thrawn, it goes him and then around him or to the site, whatever.. This is WHAT will happen when force attacks are used on the Vong... Thank you, come again.

And all this is addressed in the NJO. Try again

Really? You have yet to show anything. Outstanding job of arguing against facts and presenting no argument!
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This from someone who hasn't read NJO? Try again.

Try what again? LOL.. Way to debate lightsnake, your posts are humorous to the KMC forums.. Now read the Thrawn Trilogy and comprehend the concept of blockage from the force before you offer your infallible "Its in the NJO books but I have nothing to provide" Logic again, thanks.

No actually, it's "Here's my argument and it comes from NJO."

Which you haven't read

You haven't provided an argument lightsnake. You provided nonsense like "Everything is in the force". That may or that may NOT be true, for all you know the force only exists in the galaxy. What IS true is the Vong are immune to it..Just like the Ysalamiri.

No, actually, the Force encompasses all life, this is all addressed in Destiny's Way and Traitor. And the Vong are only immune to the force as they're on a different plane of it...Jacen and Luke rediscover said plane and have both used the force on the Vong

Lightsnake is right about the Vong existing in a different plane of the force.

I said whatever the case is, hence the concept of normal force attacks not working on the vong, hence the concept of emerald lightning being specifically created to fight the vong, hence the logical fallacy stating that if it works on the vong, it will definitely work on a force user..

TDTD stop trolling...

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LOL... Lets see let me reiterate the definition of a troll since you conveniently forgot. Not one who throws in logical arguments from the beginning of the thread, but the one that just comes in and insults other people, tells them not to troll, and offers no arguments.. Hmmm I wonder who THAT is.... Way to go hypocrite!

Oh, so was JAcen's lightning not affecting the Vong? Did they imagine it? Prove it was created for the Vong and not just Luke's own creation period