Hercules vs. Thing, Sasquatch, Doc Samson and Abomination

Started by Stoic4 pages

He was beaten near to death by a weaker team. The Masters of Evil wrecked him in the Avengers mansion no less.

Originally posted by Stoic
He was beaten near to death by a weaker team. The Masters of Evil wrecked him in the Avengers mansion no less.
Originally posted by lawest9

Isn't that was Wrecking Crew, which ambushed him when Herc was drunk?

Even Rhino has verbally owned Wrecking Crew for that.

Even if he was drunk which is something that I did not recall. He lost due to being taken off guard by Goliath. Even if he were sober, Goliath’s surprise attack would’ve taken the fight of of him in a sober state.

In my opinion the Abomination would give Hercules a tough time alone, it throwing in others capable of hurting him seals the deal for me. Hercules does have a chance of course, but …

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Originally posted by Stoic
Even if he was drunk which is something that I did not recall. He lost due to being taken off guard by Goliath. Even if he were sober, Goliath’s surprise attack would’ve taken the fight of of him in a sober state.

In my opinion the Abomination would give Hercules a tough time alone, it throwing in others capable of hurting him seals the deal for me. Hercules does have a chance of course, but …

Hercules wasn't just drunk, they had drugged him specifically for the ambush.

yeah herc was drugged. badly. goliath alone could likely take thing sasquatch and samson. herc LITERALLY one shot abomination and has treated ben like a 10 year old. he'd take this group if he were serious.

Atlas casually beat Iron Man, Luke Cage, that blue skinned Namor look alike, killed Genis-Vell, and even staggered Moonstone with two Moonstones.

Yet Herc brutalized him in a rematch.

He HAD to have been purposely not fighting back.

Originally posted by Stoic
Even if he was drunk which is something that I did not recall. He lost due to being taken off guard by Goliath. Even if he were sober, Goliath’s surprise attack would’ve taken the fight of of him in a sober state.

In my opinion the Abomination would give Hercules a tough time alone, it throwing in others capable of hurting him seals the deal for me. Hercules does have a chance of course, but …

Herc once one-shotted Abomination, but perhaps it was a low showing for Abomination (such as once he was KOed by Rhino).

Originally posted by leonidas
yeah herc was drugged. badly. goliath alone could likely take thing sasquatch and samson. herc LITERALLY one shot abomination and has treated ben like a 10 year old. he'd take this group if he were serious.

Yeah, not holding back Herc is a serious threat, even Hulk had some issues fighting him. Herc also fought Thor a lot and also put Thing in a submission grappling hold during a friendly sparring, showing his superior combat skills (Thing is also skilled too).

Originally posted by leonidas
yeah herc was drugged. badly. goliath alone could likely take thing sasquatch and samson. herc LITERALLY one shot abomination and has treated ben like a 10 year old. he'd take this group if he were serious.

You think Goliath could take Samson, or Sasquatch? Not me, and if so not easily. Samson at his fighting best is roughly as strong as Goliath. Being more than a match for Hyde. No way is he defeating or any member of his crew physically beating the Abomination.

Thor did show up to clean things up, but Thor is more powerful than Hercules, with nearly the same level of strength.

But are you saying that Hercules is too much for this team?

Originally posted by leonidas
herc LITERALLY one shot abomination

With a cheapshot from behind.

Logan has done the same to Parker - no claws, no pressure points.

Originally posted by Stoic
You think Goliath could take Samson, or Sasquatch? Not me, and if so not easily. Samson at his fighting best is roughly as strong as Goliath. Being more than a match for Hyde. No way is he defeating or any member of his crew physically beating the Abomination.

Thor did show up to clean things up, but Thor is more powerful than Hercules, with nearly the same level of strength.

But are you saying that Hercules is too much for this team?

What feats does "at his best Samson" have? The guy is not a fighter

Originally posted by Sin I AM
What feats does "at his best Samson" have? The guy is not a fighter

Back before Marvel turned him into a joke, he was actually a pretty cool character. His best feat was stalemating Savage Hulk for hours. Then there's the scan Stilt posted.

Herc can have the shit lowballed out of him, too.

20 years ago, KMC was doing their dumb thing with worshipping "gods" such as Thor and Herc, but those days are long gone and will never return.

Hercules gets pulled apart limb from limb here.

PS. Thing does just fine against Herc on his own --- a fact often neglected by leo:

Originally posted by Sin I AM
What feats does "at his best Samson" have? The guy is not a fighter

I fat fingered the shit out of that post.

Samson is plenty strong, always has been. He doesn’t typically fight it out unless push comes to shove. A serious Samson would convincingly beat Hyde. Holding his own against Goliath is within his strength level. The Abomination is altogether a different story. Hercules wasn’t operating at normal levels, and was beaten into a coma.

Could he beat this team that is even more powerful than the Masters of Evil? I don’t quite get the translation of how the Abomination stacks up to Hercules as opposed to how he stacks up to the Hulk?

Why does the Abomination appear to be a match for the Hulk, but is turned into fodder when faced up against Hercules? If Hercules runs through Emil, the rest of the team is hit.

I disagree on the way that Hercules was able to defeat the Abomination. It makes no sense at all to me.

Sucker punches tend to work that way, especially in comics. Nothing to discuss, really.

Originally posted by leonidas
yeah herc was drugged. badly. goliath alone could likely take thing sasquatch and samson. herc LITERALLY one shot abomination and has treated ben like a 10 year old. he'd take this group if he were serious.

😂

Abomination alone would beat him now.

Originally posted by leonidas
yeah herc was drugged. badly. goliath alone could likely take thing sasquatch and samson. herc LITERALLY one shot abomination and has treated ben like a 10 year old. he'd take this group if he were serious.
Goliath is not being those 3. Are you crazy?Forum Abom would be a good fight for Herc if you go by his history against Hulk.

Scans of Herc treating Ben like a 10 year old? Getting kicked in the nuts doesn't justify your statement. It isn't like that will happen again.