How many Colossuses(is that correct?) does it take to beat a Juggernaut?

Originally posted by Sam Z
I have issue where Juggernaut got his eye cut with a blade. If those sonics really was a normal physical attack then I have only one explanation - bad writing. C'mone Godblast can't harm him but this did?!

It's not bad writing, it's just that every attack has different properties, you can't simply say "this attack is more powerful, so that couldn't work because this more powerful attack doesn't".

A Godblast is more powerful than a sonic attack, I'll grant you that, but they don't effect their targets in the same manner.

Someone can be complete impervious to impact damage and still be downed by sensory overload. It bypasses their durability.

Mike Tyson can take a punch, but blow a foghorn point blank in his ear and he'll be down on his knees crying, holding his ears.

Originally posted by Sam Z
It doesn't make sense at all. Why should loud sound hurt him while NOTHING else can? Not nuke, not godblast, not sun temperature.

Because sound is not a nuke, a godblast, or temperature. It's completely different.

Originally posted by superman41082
Because sound is not a nuke, a godblast, or temperature. It's completely different.

It completly sucks comparing to nuke or godblast.

Every attack works differently.

Sound directly effects the inner ear and a person's sense of balance and central nervous system.

Electricty can cause burn damage, but it's also a matter of conductivity of the target.

Concussive blasts are all about force.

Heat blasts are, well, heat.

Etc.

Just because I'm invulnerable to being shot or burned doesn't mean that an extremely high pitch sound won't disrupt my sense of balance.

Originally posted by Sam Z
It completly sucks comparing to nuke or godblast.

As illadelph12 eloquently said, each power has different properties. You seem to be attracted to brute strength and toughness. Other people are attracted to odd powers that you say 'suck'. I think that sonic powers are extremely cool, and it makes total sense that they could put Juggs down.

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Originally posted by illadelph12
I say about 50-100 could sonic clap him into submission. He's been taken down by sonics before.

Originally posted by superman41082
Very good point.

Or, 1 million colossi could pick Juggernaut up and throw him into the sun. I'm sure that will harm him. Or, 1 million Colossi could rip the suit to shreds and wait for him to lose his powers. Guys..... Juggernaut is not unbeatable. You're all out of your minds......

Originally posted by superman41082
Doesn't he lose the effect after oh so many days????

And the sun has to hurt him. Really. It's the sun dude.........

Originally posted by superman41082
Look, the respect threads can be misleading. From the Surfer's respect thread, you'd think that he could destroy the entire universe at will, but he can not. Superman is invulnerable, too, but he can obviously be hurt, and I have seen Thor beat Juggs. I don't remember what comic because I was young, but I remember specifically that he has.........

Originally posted by illadelph12
Nimrod takes Juggernaut out with "tight beam, high frequency sonics". Juggs is wearing his skull cap that protects his mind from psionics, but he is still vulnerable, and incapacitated, by [b]sonics.
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Originally posted by illadelph12
Every attack works differently.

Sound directly effects the inner ear and a person's sense of balance and central nervous system.

Electricty can cause burn damage, but it's also a matter of conductivity of the target.

Concussive blasts are all about force.

Heat blasts are, well, heat.

Etc.

Just because I'm invulnerable to being shot or burned doesn't mean that an extremely high pitch sound won't disrupt my sense of balance.

Originally posted by superman41082
As illadelph12 eloquently said, each power has different properties. You seem to be attracted to brute strength and toughness. Other people are attracted to odd powers that you say 'suck'. I think that sonic powers are extremely cool, and it makes total sense that they could put Juggs down.

Sounds effects the inner ear, right. And this effect is still a physical harm. Sonic waves damage them. That's why people get deef because of the loud sound, their ear get damaged, and Juggernaut CAN'T be damaged.

Originally posted by Sam Z
Sounds effects the inner ear, right. And this effect is still a physical harm. Sonic waves damage them. That's why people get deef because of the loud sound, their ear get damaged, and Juggernaut CAN'T be damaged.

Thats a good point

He was taken out by sound that was tuned to a certain frequency by a robot. Colossus' hands aren't nearly smart enough to do that.

Since when does clapping create tight beam, high frequency sound?

Regular clapping doesn't.

"Thunderclapping" does. It's a sonic attack.

High frequency sound is sonics. Like Banshee and/or Siryn's sonic screams.

This event shows that Juggernaut is vulnerable to sonics, so the magnitude of 50 or more Colossi thunderclapping simultaneously is going to effect him, he's been proven to be prone to sensory overload, and sonics generated to that degee will effect him.

If not, add more Colossi and repeat. 50 should be enough. 1000 would definitely put him down with a simultaneous sonic attack.

Originally posted by Sam Z
Sounds effects the inner ear, right. And this effect is still a physical harm. Sonic waves damage them. That's why people get deef because of the loud sound, their ear get damaged, and Juggernaut CAN'T be damaged.

Nonetheless, he still gets hurt by it. Also, I had thought about the bones in the ear, and was pondering your conclusion, but there are more variables than just the bones in the ear. Are you an expert on everything that sound is and does? No........ we'd need a scientist to be in the forum and tell us all the possibilities of what sound actually is and can actually do, and still then he can't know everything.......

Originally posted by Sam Z
Sounds effects the inner ear, right. And this effect is still a physical harm. Sonic waves damage them. That's why people get deef because of the loud sound, their ear get damaged, and Juggernaut CAN'T be damaged.

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He can, and it's canon continuity.

He can take a punch, a blast, fire, etc.

High frequency sounds put him down.

Also, who's to say that pschic blasts are not physical???? It's a different kind of physicality. The mind and the body are one.........

Basically, Juggernaut's brain is vulnerable. The rest of his body isn't. He's vulnerable to telepathy and sensory overload.

I wonder if extreme luminal exposure would effect him?

Originally posted by illadelph12
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He can, and it's canon continuity.

He can take a punch, a blast, fire, etc.

High frequency sounds put him down.

And Spider-man beat firelord. It's also a canon. So? Badwriting...👆 😆

Originally posted by superman41082
Nonetheless, he still gets hurt by it. Also, I had thought about the bones in the ear, and was pondering your conclusion, but there are more variables than just the bones in the ear. Are you an expert on everything that sound is and does? No........ we'd need a scientist to be in the forum and tell us all the possibilities of what sound actually is and can actually do, and still then he can't know everything.......

I don't need to be a scientist to tell what effect loud sound makes on inner ear.

Illadelph, I didn't know you were from BK fam. I'm from the Bush.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Basically, Juggernaut's brain is vulnerable. The rest of his body isn't. He's vulnerable to telepathy and sensory overload.

I wonder if extreme luminal exposure would effect him?

Well..... the brain is connected to everything. If his brain is vulnerable so is his ear..........

Originally posted by Sam Z
I don't need to be a scientist to tell what effect loud sound makes on inner ear.

I'm not talking about the effects on just the ear. I'm talking about all the effects of sonics.....

Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
Illadelph, I didn't know you were from BK fam. I'm from the Bush.

Word? I'm from E. 35, Do or Die originally. I stay in California now. Moved out here when I was 12 (26 now).

Originally posted by Sam Z
And Spider-man beat firelord. It's also a canon. So? Badwriting...👆 😆

Pretty much.

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not canon continuity.

It makes perfect sense that a person prone to telepathy would be prone to sensory overload. What do you think a psi bolt does?