classic Juggernaut vs Thanos

Started by Big Sexy17 pages

Originally posted by Crease

[QUOTE=6526409]Originally posted by Bunker
"Some of the feats listed to Thanos advantages has occurred very few times and some is linked to his technical equipment. I'm not claiming to be right, I'm sure some one has read more of Thanos than me and can correct me. Here's my view on Thanos feats:

[B]Teleportation
Thanos can teleport, but only "short" distances and this is a invention of his, not a natural ability. He was banned by Nebula to "forever float in the depths of space" in the IG series, shouldn't he have been able to teleport himself away if it were a natural ability? Of course, Nebula had the Infinity Gauntlet and could have removed that ability, but I have never seen Thanos use the teleporter as an offensive weapon."

I'd have to dig into the crates to prove it to you, but Eternals can teleport thru their own personal power. They use others (like Pip the troll) or tech only because it's easier and less stressful. Also, Thanos has voice-activated tech built into his suit for porting, such as he used in the fight against Champion. And "a short distance" could easily place Juggernaut inside an active volcano.

As to why he didn't teleport while floating in space...who knows. It's not like he can't survive indefinitely in space, so why be in a rush to go anywhere? The Mad Titan's known to sit and ponder whatever it is conquerers ponder. If I'd suffered a defeat of that magnitude I'd be reviewing game tape to see where I went wrong. Maybe this was his "me time"

"Matter manipulation
He turned a skrull into stone, but has since then never been seen to use the ability since (remember, from what I know!). This feat was used when Thanos was young as a character and his powers were not decided. He has had plenty of opportunities to use this skill and been in need of them."

He hasn't used it often for the same reason Magneto doesn't stop the flow of everyone's blood, Supes doesn't speedblitz everybody and Wonder Woman doesn't just lasso every criminal instead of letting the police interrogate...writers have pages to fill. In addition, lots of Thanos foes are herald-level and above, meaning they have at least a little control over their molecular structure.

"Mind powers
Yes, he has engaged Galactus, and for a moment he had him on the ropes. But, not due to his psionic powers. The world eater stated that Thanos tricked him:When Galactus then assaulted Thanos he fled the battlefield. And as of resisting Moon Dragons mental probing, it was stated by Moon Dragon her self that she could not read the minds of any member of the Infinity Watch, which the Titan was secretly a member of.

The part about Nate Grey I'm not familiar with. I do know that he toyed with Drax, but any "real" attacks he's mustered has been with the aid of the Soul Gem or a third party (Moon Dragon, Prof X)."

On multiple occasions psionics have attempted to read The Mad Titan's mind and been rendered unconscious. Seeing as how I'm at work and the proof is at home, hopefully someone else has some scans for you.

I haven't taken the time to figure out how to post spoilers, but The Mad Titan did something to The Fallen one in his miniseries that he should easily be able to do to Maestro. Don't want to give it away, but most would be impressed.

"About the physical strength, I would just like to add that when he beat the Surfer to death he wore the IG, so we can't know for sure that this feat was of his own strength."

I don't remember him having the gauntlet when this happened. To your defense, Thanos stated in the Thanos Quest storyline that he had avoided a physical confrontation with the Hulk for years. Probably because he knows Hulk could physically stand up to him if the fight was to go on long enough. But the odds of Juggernaut pulling a victory even in a purely physical fight are less than 1/10, simply because Thanos can always augment his physical might with cosmic energy.

This was posted by Crease but I thought it appropriate for this thread also.

r u saying apoc is stronger than thanos. maby cartoon apoc.

exactally

Originally posted by boriquaking55
People are underestimating Thanos' durability, maybe Thanos wouldn't be able to hurt Juggs physically....but what makes anyone think Juggs could hurt Thanos physically either? Thanos would just sit there sighing at Juggs blows....and vice versa. In any encounter they would actually had, Thanos would just get bored and dump him in a pocket dimension or a black hole and be done with it....end stupid "with twist" thread, stop wasting people's time.

I don't think that Thanos would just "shrug" to planet shattering punches. Thanos would win the fight, but not by fighting in a head up brawl. He would use his superior intellect to eventually outsmart Cain and Ultimately defeat him.

juggs cant destroy planets though.

Thanos doesn't use all his abilities for the same reason Flash doesn't Speedblitz everyone and pre-retcon Beyonder didn't blink everyone out of existence....its boring and doesnt make good writing

thanos can augument his physical powers and down goes juggs

What has the world come to when people seem to adore a guy who is basically a giant retard (Juggs certainly ain't too bright is he?) with Plot Device powers 😆 lame

juggs couldnt hurt glads(x men cartoon) so now he can suddenly beat thanos. thats a pretty big step.

Originally posted by branhole
juggs cant destroy planets though.

During the 8th day saga it was said that Juggernaut was throwing punches that nearly made the world crumble.

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What does War Hulk being physically stronger than Thanos have to do with Apocalypse being stronger than Thanos?

because apoc made war. and that was eigth day saga not classic

Originally posted by branhole
juggs couldnt hurt glads(x men cartoon) so now he can suddenly beat thanos. thats a pretty big step.

Thants not even cannon, so why bring it up?

Originally posted by branhole
because apoc made war. and that was eigth day saga not classic

He granted War his sources, but War wasn't drawing power from Apoc.

Originally posted by boriquaking55
What has the world come to when people seem to adore a guy who is basically a giant retard (Juggs certainly ain't too bright is he?) with Plot Device powers 😆 lame

It's clear that you have little knowledge on Juggernaut, he's much more than a "giant retard".

who was the guy juggs was fighting?

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Thants not even cannon, so why bring it up?

we never saw the extent of warhulks power except with the fight with juggs. And jugs didn't seem that focused to me in that comic. As far as strengh, I don't think his strength and thanos's can be argued because not enough of warhulk was seen.

he is much more than a retard but he is pretty dumb.

Its not that hes a retard. Its just that he does not have the brains to match his brawn.

but war held juggs back and too me they should keep the unstoppable unstoppable

He actually wasn't fighting one person, he was fighting 5 demi gods. The people he was fighting though are called the 8 exemplars, each empowered by a god in the same manner as Cain. The team was powerful enough to defeat and imprison the Avengers, which is indeed a great feat.

The red demi god he was fighting is called Stonecutter