The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

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N. was more into ravaging, if you'll forgive the pun. He was an existential threat to the Force, after all, rather than a political or compositional threat.
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Nah, Vitiate was considerably more dangerous than Nihilus: he could do everything that Nihilus could, but had the means to apply it on a galactic scale.

Originally posted by Q99
"Dominating" works. After all, Ragnos only dominated a small empire, and Nihilus merely took over a sith empire and didn't last for long either.

Vitiate was around longer and did more actual dominating.

Didn't see this on the previous page, so I apologize for the gratuitous double post. Within the context of the sentence, the "domination" clearly refers to Vitiate's ability to psychically ensnare his allies and enemies, not his political or military achievements.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Didn't see this on the previous page, so I apologize for the gratuitous double post. Within the context of the sentence, the "domination" clearly refers to Vitiate's ability to psychically ensnare his allies and enemies, not his political or military achievements.

That makes sense. I can't think of another sith who so actively uses his powers for domination/corrupting others.

he could do everything that Nihilus could

citation needed?

Or is the back to the old idea where the Planetbuster drain is somehow equivalent to every other drain? Because that's been shot down, iirc

Would you guys tell me where this link leads for you?
http://http://bytesandbanter.blogspot.in/

It's supposed to lead to an avengers/Justice league discussion, but with the double http I get redirected to the Sheldon museum of Art, which is geographically bizarre (and unsettling!). This has got to be an artifact of google's tailored advertizements, or malware.

Using a proxy just sends me back to the proxy homepage.

Originally posted by Zampanó
citation needed?

Or is the back to the old idea where the Planetbuster drain is somehow equivalent to every other drain? Because that's been shot down, iirc

I was referring to Vitiate's similar ability to leech life on a planetary scale, with exceptionally potent aftereffects. When the Exile lands on Nathema, she notes that the "void" left by Vitiate is greater than any she's ever felt. Coming from the survivor of Malachor V, that's quite an accolade.

Not to mention the fact that, unlike Nihilus, Vitiate is known to eventually have achieved the ability to apply the technique on a galactic scale.

Originally posted by Zampanó
He was an existential threat to the Force, after all,

Upon further reflection, I'm extremely skeptical of this appellation. Canonically, threats to the Force itself have been identified in the form of Plagueis & Sidious and very arguably Abeloth and the Son from Mortis. Where is Nihilus identified as such?

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Upon further reflection, I'm extremely skeptical of this appellation. Canonically, threats to the Force itself have been identified in the form of Plagueis & Sidious and very arguably Abeloth and the Son from Mortis. Where is Nihilus identified as such?

I'd have to find the exact quote, but I am certain that is a thing that Kreia said.

Originally posted by Zampanó
I'd have to find the exact quote, but I am certain that is a thing that Kreia said.

I ask for a source and you give me Kreia? lol
Seriously, I'll settle for nothing less than Tobin. 😬

His ability wounds the Force. In time he would have killed it.

There is no contradiction with what I showed you guys. It just canonically establishes what we already know.

Originally posted by Nephthys
His ability wounds the Force. In time he would have killed it.

Nah.

No, in time his hunger would have killed him. Only Vitiate could concievably destroy the galaxy.

And Abeloth.

I don't really consider her part of the discussion because she's a Celestial.

That's true.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Nah, Vitiate was considerably more dangerous than Nihilus: he could do everything that Nihilus could, but had the means to apply it on a galactic scale.

I see the one-up-manship of the EU community hasn't changed.

Testament to the creative deficits of the pre-film era writers.

It'll be interesting to see how they top people like Vitiate and Abeloth, pretty much galactic threats just with their own powers.

Next they'll have Luke fight God or something. It'll be like that Star Trek movie. You know, the shit one.