Now I know you're trolling me.
Critics are idiots.
The problem is that people judge it solely as an adaption, so don't give it credit for any of the good things in the movie and only pay attention to the negatives. They don't praise it for the great characters, the striking themes etc, they only complain about that the squids not in, I didn't like how they handled this scene waah waah! The movie still has all of the amazing things the novel has, and if you judge it by whats actually there, Watchmen is obviously on a level above other superhero movies.
The problem with "There Will Be Blood" was that there was no blood until the very end, quite misleading actually. I thought the movie itself was ok but I enjoyed the time period (oil boom of the early 20th century) and DDL was amazing as usual. Other than that, nothing beats "I'll drink your milkshake".
Originally posted by ares834
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Watch it.
Whether 'it', in this case, refers to your mouth or the film is open to interpretation.
On the safe side, watch both, fvcker.
Nephthys
The problem is that people judge it solely as an adaption, so don't give it credit for any of the good things in the movie and only pay attention to the negatives. They don't praise it for the great characters, the striking themes etc, they only complain about that the squids not in, I didn't like how they handled this scene waah waah! The movie still has all of the amazing things the novel has, and if you judge it by whats actually there, Watchmen is obviously on a level above other superhero movies.
Never watched it all the way through, but Veneficus extolled the graphic novel and the movie and he's generally got a pretty damn good taste in fiction. I researched the storyline fairly heavily over the years in lieu of actually watching it, but I found it pretty compelling and unique for a superhero flick.
That said, the fact that the critics didn't trip over themselves in a mob rush to praise this movie does raise some questions. They frothed at the mouth over The Dark Knight, which was a fun but pretentious movie if there ever was one. Why not Watchmen?
Prolly because none of the actors died post-production. Either way, I need to check it out.
mike
The problem with "There Will Be Blood" was that there was[/b]
That it was made to begin with.
Never watched it all the way through, but Veneficus extolled the graphic novel and the movie and he's generally got a pretty damn good taste in fiction. I researched the storyline fairly heavily over the years in lieu of actually watching it, but I found it pretty compelling and unique for a superhero flick.
Then again, movies which conflate "darkness" with "edginess" (or edginess with quality, for that matter) are always a struggle for me.
Except the movie doesn't conflate those two. When the movie is dark, its doing it to shock and horrify you. Rorschach throwing boiling cooking fat on a guy isn't meant to be gritty or cool, its disturbing as hell and its played as being so.
Some movies are just dark. Watchmen is about a bunch of psychopaths and deranged misanthropes during the build up to nuclear armageddon. Its dark.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Never watched it all the way through, but Veneficus extolled the graphic novel and the movie and he's generally got a pretty damn good taste in fiction. I researched the storyline fairly heavily over the years in lieu of actually watching it, but I found it pretty compelling and unique for a superhero flick.That said, the fact that the critics didn't trip over themselves in a mob rush to praise this movie does raise some questions. They frothed at the mouth over The Dark Knight, which was a fun but pretentious movie if there ever was one. Why not Watchmen?
Prolly because none of the actors died post-production. Either way, I need to check it out.
I honestly don't really know why the critics don't like it. Watching the movie on my dads projector remains one of the best viewing experiences of my life. Afterwards my dad and bro turned to me and asked me incredulously why people didn't like the movie.
I can only say that its very divisive, not only in terms of story, but with the direction and general feel of the movie. Synders direction is heavily stylised and some people didn't like that. Some people complained about the dialogue being clunky from its transition from comic to film, but I didn't notice that. And some people just really hate that they changed a few things.
Originally posted by mike honchoDon't try to make an appeal to majority. Man of Steel is sitting on a nice, proper, well deserved 56% on Rotten Tomatoes.
First of all, I don't know where you get this idea that Costner can't act. Dances with Wolves was one of the greatest movies ever made. He's not the BEST actor but he's a good one, and an even better writer. Secondly, he was perfect for his role in Man of Steel. His "unemotional" character did something for me (not sexually) and reading many comments about the movie, Costner was one of the best, if not the best in it. Simply by showing very little emotion, he made a splash. At least for me (again NOT sexually).Also, I don't think anybody is going to say Crowe isn't a hell of an actor. I don't think anyone has but just in case, you REALLY don't want to go there because evidence=
The only thing the evidence shows is that the movie was awful from start to finish, with a few cool scenes sprinkled in. Whether Costner is a good actor in general or not (which is debatable. For every good movie he's done, he's also done a Waterworld...) is pretty immaterial- the role he played in MoS sucked.
Z.
Did Vene actually like the movie?
I believe so.
Z.
Then again, movies which conflate "darkness" with "edginess" (or edginess with quality, for that matter) are always a struggle for me.
Pretty much. This misconception has been a constant source of frustration for years. It's perpetuated by the aggregate that I refer to as the Starbucks Mafia: anyone with dark, side-swept hair, skinny jeans, tattoos, who smoke, participate in noticeable body modification, and are ultra-liberal tend to earn my ire when it comes to movies. It's also responsible for the shift from Superman to Batman as the iconic superhero.
N.
I honestly don't really know why the critics don't like it. Watching the movie on my dads projector remains one of the best viewing experiences of my life. Afterwards my dad and bro turned to me and asked me incredulously why people didn't like the movie.I can only say that its very divisive, not only in terms of story, but with the direction and general feel of the movie. Synders direction is heavily stylised and some people didn't like that. Some people complained about the dialogue being clunky from its transition from comic to film, but I didn't notice that. And some people just really hate that they changed a few things.
I'll have to give it a watch.
Originally posted by Tzeentch._
Don't try to make an appeal to majority. Man of Steel is sitting on a nice, proper, well deserved 56% on Rotten Tomatoes.The only thing the evidence shows is that the movie was awful from start to finish, with a few cool scenes sprinkled in. Whether Costner is a good actor in general or not (which is debatable. For every good movie he's done, he's also done a Waterworld...) is pretty immaterial- the role he played in MoS sucked.
So I can't appeal to the majority but I have to take your word for it that it sucked? Lol
To be fair I probably would have enjoyed Man of Steel more if I hadn't been in the process of reading through Grant Morrison's recent run on Action Comics at the time, probably the best Superman story of all time.
I'll have to give it a watch.
You should totally read the comicbook first, or better yet check out the even better work from the same author, Swamp Thing. Seriously that series was the shit.
Originally posted by Nephthys
But...... All-Star Superman is the best Superman story of all time????
Basically either way you look at it Grant Morrison is the man.
All-Star Superman probably was my favorite Superman story ever, but I think Grant Morrison managed to actually surpass it with Action Comics (Action Comics vol 2, #1-18 + annual). I'm sure most people would disagree but his recent run took the character to new heights and had one of the trickiest, most mind bending stories I've come across in a long time.