The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

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Yea we can discuss this when you want. Just know that MY actions are guided mainly by Judaic principles but I don't "not agree" with something just because it's in the torah. Like I said, it's part of the reason but the other part is just a belief that marriage=man+woman

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/04/09/brandeis-university-withdraws-planned-honorary-degree-for-islam-critic-ayaan/

Originally posted by psmith81992
But unlike Janus, you're able to reinforce your arguments with cogent, objective arguments which I have absolutely no problems with, as opposed to baseless, grade school liberal rantings. I don't remember the last time I said "liberalism is a mental disease", because I have no problems with liberals leaning towards the center, same with conservatives. I have problems with ultra conservatives and ultra liberals. Morons on both sides of the coins.

Just because I take issue with your complete inability to actually rationalize assertions (besides "they make sense to me, so I entertain them"😉 doesn't mean you need to poo-poo my intellect, Dave. The butt-hurt just comes out when you do that.

Let's clarify the issue here:

1. You've indicated that you hold religion to be compatible with science, but you can't even slightly attempt to explain why. This utter absence of a cohesive argument makes me skeptical.

2. You've indicated that you feel marriage is a man and woman only, but not because of religious reasons, even though you can't give me a secular argument for being against gay marriage, or gay unions which use the term 'marriage" because verbiage matters.

3. Both of these are compounded with years-worth of evidence of you backtracking, contradicting, and generally being unable to reconcile the two opposing viewpoints, to the extent that you've actually asserted that there's no difference between a faith-based dogmatic learning and that fancy thing we sometimes call "logical proofs".

Originally posted by Zampanó
After all, it (religion) seems to be a positive force in DS's life. The knock-on effects of normalizing religious ideas seems like a much weaker argument than that. I'm much more interested in getting a window into the way that the other half views the world, because this is a perspective that I don't have access to.

I'm trying to remember the last time Dave said anything positive about the affect religion had on his life aside from "I have it" and "you're a douche for not respecting it". However, I have to give him credit that he's never said I'm a bad person for not being Jewish; just a bad person for not respecting faith.

Originally posted by psmith81992
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/04/09/brandeis-university-withdraws-planned-honorary-degree-for-islam-critic-ayaan/

Oh look, Conservative News.

Originally posted by psmith81992
One of my good friends in college was a lesbian, and the only gay guys I've interacted with were flaming queens. I'm mildly uncomfortable around those types but I'm ok with that.

"Interacted".

Just because I take issue with your complete inability to actually rationalize assertions (besides "they make sense to me, so I entertain them"😉 doesn't mean you need to poo-poo my intellect, Dave. The butt-hurt just comes out when you do that.

This coming from someone who wants scientific proof derived from one's beliefs and who fails to provide an adequate counterpoint.
Your intelligence wasn't a point of contention

1. You've indicated that you hold religion to be compatible with science, but you can't even slightly attempt to explain why. This utter absence of a cohesive argument makes me skeptical.

I've already explained why. Both are different explanations for the same thing. Since you can't logically dismiss a religious explanation for a scientific event or vice versa, I'm afraid you are going to just have to "accept it".

2. You've indicated that you feel marriage is a man and woman only, but not because of religious reasons, even though you can't give me a secular argument for being against gay marriage, or gay unions which use the term 'marriage" because verbiage matters.

Reading is fundamental. Not ONLY because of religious reasons. I have no problems with unions on any level. It's the "marriage" distinction I take issue with.

3. Both of these are compounded with years-worth of evidence of you backtracking, contradicting, and generally being unable to reconcile the two opposing viewpoints, to the extent that you've actually asserted that there's no difference between a faith-based dogmatic learning and that fancy thing we sometimes call "logical proofs".

Weird, because the only one continuously screaming "contradictions!" is you. As I expected, RH took no issue with my "contradictory" stance because there is no contradiction, no matter how hard you try to find one. And as for backtracking? You mean changing your viewpoints as you grow older and mature? Oh lordy no! That means everyone is guilty of backtracking.

Since you continuously call religion a "myth" without any proof, while claiming I don't provide proof for my assertions, I'll chalk this up to the usual Janus "I'm insecure so I project a lot" hypocritical reasoning.

I'm trying to remember the last time Dave said anything positive about the affect religion had on his life aside from "I have it" and "you're a douche for not respecting it". However, I have to give him credit that he's never said I'm a bad person for not being Jewish; just a bad person for not respecting faith.

Aside from expanding my viewpoints, bettering myself and trying to see the good in others although I know humanity gravitates naturally towards evil, making sure my wife and my family is always happy and basing my happiness on my loved ones? No, religion hasn't affected my life. And again, it's less to do with "religion" but certain tenets of Judaism involving personal/character development.

Furthermore, I have never claimed you were a douche for not respecting religion, just a douche for your reasoning, which I can find in any liberal arts school or coffee shop. I have no problem with anyone who doesn't believe in God(and I've said as such). I do have a problem with pseudointellectual secularists who don't believe in a higher power solely because they believe mankind is good and they are the masters of their universes.

"Interacted".

Well I can't very well have a sexual connotation here can I?

Now, now. How many utterly pointless arguments about the quality of KOTOR 2 has this thread seen? Everyone is entitled to waste hours of their lives arguing irrelevant points here!

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KotOR 2? That game was [awesome/terrible]! Didn't you notice [the grittiness/the glitches]?

You thought the other thing was more important?

You must be a child.

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I don't think many many complained about the glitches. Mostly it was about how quote unquote edgy it was.

It's quote edgy unquote.

""edgy don't make no sense m8.

When you say it in a sentence you say 'quote unquote edgy' though. Preferably while doing airquotes for maximum condescension.

what the deuce

How come you never call people "mate", Neph? You're a brit.

I don't really talk like that. I'm more like one of those stuck up, posh brits* who speak proper english and have impeccable enunciation. I was the only one on my street as a child who didn't pronounce 'water' as 'war-ah'.

* Despite being dirt poor and living in Hippie central.

So is mate more of like a manly, Guy Ritchie type thing?

Blokes call each other mate. I am a gentleman.

I'd always assumed bloke meant like, gentleman.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Blokes call each other mate. I am a gentleman.

I'm sure your Dakimakura agrees.

I'm a güey. Or a cabrón, or a vato, or a hermano.

Eeeeeeeyyyyyyy, vato.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
I'd always assumed bloke meant like, gentleman.

No, its more informal.