Originally posted by NemeBroTo an extent, sure, but the interpretation of the artist does not supersede the interpretation of the viewers or players or whatever.
I only partially agree. I think the interpretation of the artist is something that matters alot in terms of intent, before the audience goes around saying what he was trying to do. How they take it is whatever, but you have people who have their interpretation of the art to paint the artist as whatever the agenda they see fit
Originally posted by Lek KuenTo make sure I know what you mean by that can I ask for an example?
I only partially agree. I think the interpretation of the artist is something that matters alot in terms of intent, before the audience goes around saying what he was trying to do. How they take it is whatever, but you have people who have their interpretation of the art to paint the artist as whatever the agenda they see fit
Originally posted by NemeBro
To make sure I know what you mean by that can I ask for an example?
The whole women and minorities thing since its related to the topic. Where because people say view an art direction or such as sexist, want to say that the creator specifically thinks of women as nothing but sex objects to rape or something. When say the designs are a homage to someone else or something
Originally posted by Lek KuenI'd agree that when criticism a work it is best not to assert knowledge of the creator's beliefs or mindset (especially when the work is a huge collaborative effort like a video game actually), but on the other hand, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and ****s like a duck, it might just be a duck. For example, HP Lovecraft depicted miscegenation as an abominable act that produces grotesque half breeds who inevitably worship eldritch horrors too terrifying for man to comprehend. I think he might have been a racist, lol.
The whole women and minorities thing since its related to the topic. Where because people say view an art direction or such as sexist, want to say that the creator specifically thinks of women as nothing but sex objects to rape or something. When say the designs are a homage to someone else or something
I'd agree it isn't always that cut and dry though.
What do you mean by the "designs are a homage" thing?
Originally posted by NemeBro
I'd agree that when criticism a work it is best not to assert knowledge of the creator's beliefs or mindset (especially when the work is a huge collaborative effort like a video game actually), but on the other hand, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and ****s like a duck, it might just be a duck. For example, HP Lovecraft depicted miscegenation as an abominable act that produces grotesque half breeds who inevitably worship eldritch horrors too terrifying for man to comprehend. I think he might have been a racist, lol.I'd agree it isn't always that cut and dry though.
What do you mean by the "designs are a homage" thing?
Using Dragons crown as an example, from when people called out from a pure art standpoint before actually discussing over all content when iirc the art was mostly a tribute to some other artists. Now there are some sexist things with the game, but I'm referring to when people went purely on designs.
Originally posted by Lek KuenOh sure man, the artist's interpretation/intent certainly matters, but it should not supersede those of his or her audience. I would also agree that some evidence should be compiled before so shamelessly accusing someone of ill intent, as you said.
Well sometimes they are, I'm just saying the intent of the artist should matter too, why they portrayed things how they are should be considered before we try to lynch them based purely on the surface.Using Dragons crown as an example, from when people called out from a pure art standpoint before actually discussing over all content when iirc the art was mostly a tribute to some other artists. Now there are some sexist things with the game, but I'm referring to when people went purely on designs.
Dragon's Crown is indeed a good example of feminism gone wrong, lol. The art style is heavily caricatured, and as such the overly buxom sorceress is a lot less glaring and weird when put next to the incredibly muscular and top-heavy dwarf. Beautifully designed game btw. 👆
Also, this is pretty weird. I am actually about to write a rhetorical analysis on Roger Ebert's "Video Games Can Never Be Art" essay, and will likely be writing an argument essay in the future on the subject as well. All decided before today.
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