Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
I'm surprised at the lack of love for Mockingjay - I've never watched the movies or read the books myself(which I plan to remedy soon) But i expected more fans on here 😕
Mockingjay was good. I'm a fan of the movies when my wife turned me on to the books. It's a very good series.
"With prosecutors like this, Darren Wilson never really needed a defense lawyer."
Crooks and Liars is a American left wing political blog founded by John Amato
Not to mention:
The most credible eyewitnesses to the shooting death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., said he had charged toward Police Officer Darren Wilson just before the final, fatal shots, the St. Louis County prosecutor said Monday night as he sought to explain why a grand jury had not found probable cause to indict the officer.The accounts of several other witnesses from the Ferguson neighborhood where Mr. Brown, 18 and unarmed, met his death on Aug. 9 — including those who said Mr. Brown was trying to surrender — changed over time or were inconsistent with physical evidence, the prosecutor, Robert P. McCulloch, said in a news conference.
“The duty of the grand jury is to separate fact and fiction,†he said in a statement watched by a tense nation. “No probable cause exists to file any charges against Darren Wilson.â€
It is a pretty shit thing to ignore facts from someone u don't like
Here's another source discussing in more detail the legal backing to the outdated statute (though it does not mention the manipulative way in which information was parceled out and only corrected AFTER testimony was heard)
http://m.news.stlpublicradio.org/?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F#mobile/41153
Originally posted by Zampanó
It is a pretty shit thing to ignore facts from someone u don't likeHere's another source discussing in more detail the legal backing to the outdated statute (though it does not mention the manipulative way in which information was parceled out and only corrected AFTER testimony was heard)
http://m.news.stlpublicradio.org/?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F#mobile/41153
It's not that I'm ignoring facts, I don't trust hardcore left sites like that, like you don't trust fox news or Glenn Beck, or one of those conspiracy sites. But I ask you again, what does the statute have to do with the fact that there wasn't enough to indict? Or the fact that he was going toward the police officer and not away? Or the shoddy witnesses? Or the convenience store incident? What you posted seems more like a smokescreen than anything else. Like there needs to be rationalization for what a shitty prosecutor that guy was, or how this was all part of the perceived racism in this country. I don't support or oppose the prosecutor or much care for the police's liberal use of firearms, but looking strictly at this case, there was not much for an indictment unless it was done so under public scrutiny.
1. the convenience store incident is irrelevant; wilson didn't know about it and even if he did then it doesn't justify lethal force
2. the national bar association has released a statement that suggests prosecutorial misconduct is suspected. Lisa Bloom (a civil rights attorney i like on twitter) has a series of really damning tweets about the indictment examination of Wilson's testimony. There certainly seems to be at least a case to be made that the trial itself was not conducted in good faith.
3. certainly the police department's handling of the case was not in regulation. Darren Wilson was allowed to leave the scene without giving a statement; he washed his hands (destroying evidence) afterwards, the forensic photographer didn't take pictures because the batteries were dead in his camera
3a. While we're talking about witness inconsistencies, did u look into wilson's inconsistencies even after 2 months coaching from lawyers?
4. The bar of "should there be a trial" seems particularly easy to clear. I'm not convinced that a jury would have convicted Wilson but I absolutely think that there should have been a trial
5i. Also the handling of the protests and unrest is a joke
5ii. Imposing curfews and militarizing the response is just asking for violence
5iii. releasing the indictment results on a weeknight (instead of right before church, as requested by city and community officials) seems like a calculated move
tbh i'm shocked that this is being treated as a controversy instead of an atrocity
it seems clear to me that the system was manipulated for darren wilson's benefit
At the risk of spending more time than I should on this thing this morning, can you provide sources for everything you just mentioned? And on second thought, you may be right. There probably at least should have been a trial. There would have been no conviction (and the riots going on now would have happened after the verdict) but yea, a trial might have been warranted. And if there is actual (rather than alleged) prosecutorial misconduct, I hope they send the ****er to prison.
3a. While we're talking about witness inconsistencies, did u look into wilson's inconsistencies even after 2 months coaching from lawyers?
No I didn't, and even if what you said is true, his inconsistencies are WAYYYYYYY secondary to witness testimony. If he was already on trial, then his alleged inconsistencies will matter. But in an indictment hearing, witness testimony is all that really matters.
http://anordinaryhero.deviantart.com/art/Taris-Years-Ago-341824324
Foudn it ! Finaly It's a bit late but I found it !!!
Dave
And on second thought, you may be right. There probably at least should have been a trial.
I ask about sources because you can't possibly have an informed opinion if you don't want to read, let alone weight the merits of the compilations of evidence presented and argued for by any dissenting parties, especially when the narratives here have changed so dramatically, so quickly. Honestly, just start here (spoiler: it's Wikipedia) and read for ten to fifteen minutes, stop at the aftermath section, and source outwards if you're interested. I know how we should all feel about Wikipedia, but this is uniquely devoid of inflammatory rhetoric, and comprehensive in that it's left out nothing verifiable that I've seen elsewhere (but I'm not committed enough to this to dig through the actual stuff [at the bottom]). You're not wrong about emotions muddying the waters here, but the facts are what they are.
And Happy Thanksgiving, brethren everywhere.