The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

Started by carthage3,287 pages
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Your passion for 8 year olds strikes me as a bit more sinister than George's.

The target demographic would sure explain your love of the films 👆

Originally posted by carthage
The target demographic would sure explain your love of the films 👆

And make no mistake, George Lucas had fascism very much in mind when he conceived Palpatine way back in the days of the Original Trilogy. As McDiarmid took his seat in his swiveling throne on the set of Return of the Jedi, Lucas reportedly asked of the actor, “Does this remind you of the Oval Office?”

It was that point, McDiarmid later told the Guardian, that he realized who Palpatine was based on: none other than Richard Nixon.

"George knew that eight-year-olds, for whom these films are primarily intended, are very impressionable, and he wanted to make the right impression," the actor continued. “So the whole film is about the unnecessary rise of fascism. In other words: watch out, they're all after your freedom, particularly when they're talking about defending freedom. Without getting over-extended about it, that is at the heart of these movies.”

It’s almost scary to think that McDiarmid almost never got the Palpatine role at all. Until the eve of Return of the Jedi’s shoot, another, much older actor had the part, but he couldn’t wear the distinctive, uncomfortable-looking contact lenses it required. As a result, a car was hurriedly despatched to whisk the 30-something McDiarmid off for an audition - and McDiarmid, it seems, won the role by a nose.

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BTW your obsession with me is almost as creepy as Sinious's haermm

Still a better film than the shit prequels 👆

Spoiler:
ROTJ has Palps in it... that's OK.
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^ Don't care what anyone says, Lucas is The Man. I appreciate every message he was putting out in the OT and PT.

I just hope Ep.7 gives us even a fraction of the wisdom the OT and PT.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ Don't care what anyone says, Lucas is The Man. I appreciate every message he was putting out in the OT and PT.

You mean stupid, childish conceptions of: government, morality, Taoism, romantic relationships, and friendship?

The PT gave us Yoda: Dark Rendezvous, the greatest SW book of all. Not to mention the ROTS novel and Shatterpoint. The best of SW comes out of the PT tbh.

I shall be eternally grateful for that much.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
The PT gave us Yoda: Dark Rendezvous, the greatest SW book of all. Not to mention the ROTS novel and Shatterpoint. The best of SW comes out of the PT tbh.
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The post-OT or OT-centric novels are often pretty average or dull. I put that down to the OT films having a very unique feel and tone to their characters and story, and the books not being able to replicate that. They try, but Luke's and Han's and THX-1138's charm originated in the film media, and no author has been able to translate that to the EU novels. For some reason I never liked reading narration from Vader's POV or his internal monologue.

But the PT was so lacking in every aspect of humanity and storytelling that EU authors had effective carte blanche to write as they please and it was guaranteed to add something of worth to something otherwise worthless.

ROFL @ Rendezous > Stover's ROTS.

The OT kind of has a problem in that the rest of the EU is all about super powerful Jedi and big battles and lightsaber fights. But the OT only has Luke as this shitty Jedi and it's all about the Rebellion which can't really fight the Empire much directly. So it feels pretty low stakes.

Also the OT ****ing loves Vader too much even though he's the villain and it keeps making stuff with him as the protagonist but I'm not rooting for this *******. I want him to get his ass whooped. But noooo guys, he's really cooool you guys. Its so cooooool when he does terrible things. And of course he always has to win because thats the OT.

Maybe the prequels made me hate Anakin so much that I can't like him in anything anymore.

Personally I think Rebels is the only thing thats recaptured the feel of the OT well and got me to enjoy that time frame again.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The OT kind of has a problem in that the rest of the EU is all about super powerful Jedi and big battles and lightsaber fights. But the OT only has Luke as this shitty Jedi and it's all about the Rebellion which can't really fight the Empire much directly. So it feels pretty low stakes.

Also the OT ****ing loves Vader too much even though he's the villain and it keeps making stuff with him as the protagonist but I'm not rooting for this *******. I want him to get his ass whooped. But noooo guys, he's really cooool you guys. Its so cooooool when he does terrible things. And of course he always has to win because thats the OT.

Maybe the prequels made me hate Anakin so much that I can't like him in anything anymore.

Personally I think Rebels is the only thing thats recaptured the feel of the OT well and got me to enjoy that time frame again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaG5SAw1n0c

Id take Traitor over Dark Rendezvous any day, even the Plagueis novel was better than that book. The only good thing about it was Yodas/Dooku's relationship, other than that it was an average book

I tried out for the swim team yesterday and made it.

Ah swim team. Good times.

Congratulations, Joker 👆

Originally posted by Aurbere
Ah swim team. Good times.

Originally posted by Aurbere
Congratulations, Joker 👆
Thanks 😄

That gif slays me, LOL 😄

Originally posted by |King Joker|

Hopefully they don't consider that a successful treatment...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRkt2FXLibI

Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ Don't care what anyone says, Lucas is The Man. I appreciate every message he was putting out in the OT and PT.

I just hope Ep.7 gives us even a fraction of the wisdom the OT and PT.

You lack any faith in episode 7. Rips off your Star Wars badge. You sicken me.