"Do not beat Allah’s handmaidens, but when ‘Umar came to the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) and said: Women have become emboldened towards their husbands, he (the Prophet) gave permission to beat them."
Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great."
Look at that equality. Remember passages like this demanding you beat your wife in the Bible? I sure do...oh wait. No I don't. Because there aren't any. It's almost comical how people want to pretend this isn't how this religion really is, and instead of asking for reform, act like because it's from a non-European area of the world, it's okay.
Originally posted by MS WarehouseWe also know historically what parts of religion were stolen from other religions. Watch Zeitgeist and get a clue. Your ignorance is nauseating.
Also to ridicule another one of quan's comparisons.. We know in full detail where Santa Clause comes from and the history behind the story. So your point is invalid (as are all the rest of them). Basically what freshest said about scientists, and the fact that quite a few of them are religious.
Originally posted by MS WarehouseYou just described yourself. What theories don't you feel have to be proven ? You believe proof isn't required to support a theory.
1. Make a bunch of nonsensical posts
2. Declare victory
3. Try to post last no matter what.This is why not a single person engages you in debate. You're a child who thinks he's intelligent. It's amusing. 😂
@Fresh, what's really comical is the number of times the Quran tells you not to quote its passages selectively, and twist them for your own benefit. mmm
Anyway, for people who would prefer to educate themselves, rather than formulated opinions based off our resident Islamic expert here, some links:
On violence:
http://www.islamicity.org/3769/does-the-quran-or-muhammad-promote-violence/
http://indy100.independent.co.uk/article/the-best-answer-to-the-question-does-islam-promote-violence--W1QmoB1BKx
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/are-peaceful-muslims-in-denial-about-their-religion-10084960.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kabir-helminski/does-the-quran-really-adv_b_722114.html
On misogyny (which is actually a tangible issue rather than a make-believe one, but still involves on a lot of fact twisting):
https://ablestmage.wordpress.com/2009/12/06/top-10-anti-women-quran-quotes-explained/
http://muslima.globalfundforwomen.org/content/islam-inherently-misogynistic
http://europe.newsweek.com/islam-needs-feminist-voice-473628?rm=eu
I'm sure you can find some more yourself. Google is your friend. 👆
As for the assertion that Islam as a religion comes under less criticism in today's world than Christianity, good one DMB.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
@Fresh, what's really comical is the number of times the Quran tells you not to quote its passages selectively, and twist them for your own benefit. mmmAnyway, for people who would prefer to educate themselves, rather than formulated opinions based off our resident Islamic expert here, some links:
On violence:
http://www.islamicity.org/3769/does-the-quran-or-muhammad-promote-violence/
http://indy100.independent.co.uk/article/the-best-answer-to-the-question-does-islam-promote-violence--W1QmoB1BKx
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/are-peaceful-muslims-in-denial-about-their-religion-10084960.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kabir-helminski/does-the-quran-really-adv_b_722114.htmlOn misogyny (which is actually a tangible issue rather than a make-believe one, but still involves on a lot of fact twisting):
https://ablestmage.wordpress.com/2009/12/06/top-10-anti-women-quran-quotes-explained/
http://muslima.globalfundforwomen.org/content/islam-inherently-misogynistic
http://europe.newsweek.com/islam-needs-feminist-voice-473628?rm=euI'm sure you can find some more yourself. Google is your friend. 👆
As for the assertion that Islam as a religion comes under less criticism in today's world than Christianity, good one DMB.
Why do you think the Jews killed Jesus and they dont respect him at all, at least Muslims accept that he was risen from the dead. Jews don't even acknowledge Christ even to this day.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
@Fresh, what's really comical is the number of times the Quran tells you not to quote its passages selectively, and twist them for your own benefit. mmm
Originally posted by FreshestSlice😂
How is that quoting passages selectively? It flat out says it's okay to beat your wife if she gets uppity, kill nonbelievers, and stone gays. It's pretty obvious you've never actually read the Quran though, because those are entire passages, not selectively looking at anything. Stop being a goddamned apologists all the time. And treat these brown people like you think white people should be treated. You aren't helping anybody.