The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

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Originally posted by MS Warehouse
What exactly makes these alt right posts exactly?

The Alt-right umbrella usually includes certain racial arguments, centering around racial purity or hegemony. In the context of American or Western European politics, this amounts to an aversion to the impending demographic inversion where the United States population changes from majority-white to minority-white. Ziggystardust and Kurk have both presented or endorsed positions that rely on an explicit conclusion that "white" people are intellectually (and/or morally) superior to other races.

Edit: 56000 HAH. (Suck it faunus.)

Hmm. Must have missed all that. Good thing they aren't real conservatives

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
You wanna talk about Value? Perhaps you you would like to know how things would change if the ugliest truths were accepted by the ruling class? In which case, there are practical benefits of hurting some people’s feelings for the greater good. I would ask you for ideas, but you can't even seem to come up with a rebuttal, let alone a clue. Thees are just some of the social benefits that would come from listening to the truth instead of running from it or trying to shut it down.

The Ziggy Manifesto

1. Immigration restriction.

- You need a certain number of high IQ people to keep a First World society going.

2. An end to affirmative action.

- Minority underperformance is not due to racism, so affirmative action is grossly unfair.

3. Discouraging dysgenics, i.e. not subsidizing single motherhood through welfare, regardless of disparate impact on minorities. See #1.

4. Shutting down movements to let minority prisoners out into society.

5. An end to blaming white racism for all the problems of the world.

- This may seem like mostly a minor annoyance. But really intellectual hygeine is reason enough to get rid of it. Forcing people to believe lies is generally corrupting.
5b. It prevents people from thinking seriously about solving the problems among low IQ groups. You can’t solve a problem unless you think clearly about its cause.

Whites have created liberal modernity and it is not without its significant downsides, spiritual, artistic and even intellectual. Of course, blacks and many of these other groups don’t seem very good at creating and maintaining a crime free, high tech society. Though I’d note that high levels of black crime and social dysfunction are at least partially a response to living in certain societies. I’ve visited St. Lucia, which is a very black place, and, up until the recent influx of tourodollars, it had been mostly crime free and is still relatively so. Blacks in the South up until the 1960s were relatively peaceful and well ordered too. But modernity + blacks seems to equal lots of crime and social dysfunction.

so obviously the arguments claims statements here aren't really worth engaging with. i want to instead draw your attention to the use of "ruling class" to refer to white people. That's fcked up. then we get into the use of "dysgenics" to refer to help for (minority) mothers on welfare, as though minority populations are some social ill to be curbed. (There's a second layer here of disdain for / active opposition to women as a political class, but I am really only here to talk about the white supremacist part of their argument and not the sexist part.)

Lol. About the only thing I agree with in this "Mainfesto" is:
1. Immigration restriction (for obvious reasons).
I don't really know what 4 means.
5 would be nice but I don't think everyone blames everything on racism and those that do are morons who are looking for an excuse.

The rest of this is hilariously retarded. The whole "white people" argument is incredibly misguided for obvious reasons as well. I just roll my eyes when I see the type of demonstrations "white" college students are participating in these days. The amount of white guilt is retarded. The entire state of California has lost its mind.

So really this rant had nothing to do with anything but in conclusion, it's not really even worth addressing ziggy's argument.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Lol. About the only thing I agree with in this "Mainfesto" is:
1. Immigration restriction (for obvious reasons).
I don't really know what 4 means.
5 would be nice but I don't think everyone blames everything on racism and those that do are morons who are looking for an excuse.

The rest of this is hilariously retarded. The whole "white people" argument is incredibly misguided for obvious reasons as well. I just roll my eyes when I see the type of demonstrations "white" college students are participating in these days. The amount of white guilt is retarded. The entire state of California has lost its mind.

So really this rant had nothing to do with anything but in conclusion, it's not really even worth addressing ziggy's argument.

RE: California:
http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-hiltzik-california-econ-growth-20160722-snap-story.html

The state gained 40,300 jobs in June and 461,000 over the year. With a gain of 2.9%, that was the best 12-month record of any large state except Florida, which won by a nostril with a gain of 3%, and much better than the nation as a whole (1.7%). According to the congressional Joint Economic Committee, California leads the nation in growth in its gross domestic product, which grew by 4.2% in 2015 — more than twice the national rate.

This record raises numerous questions, the most interesting of which is: So what’s all that guff about California being a “business-unfriendly” state?

(I know that this doesn't respond to your complaint about White Guilt. I also know that California is the 6th biggest economy in the world. We beat France!)


RE: California:
http://www.latimes.com/business/hil...snap-story.html

Woohoo, you beat France. Texas still wins. My argument wasn't about California's economy (which ignores the fact that California is indeed bankrupt and they're almost at the IOU stage), but the idiotic college campuses there. Everyday I read about antisemitic demonstrations (which are predominantly white). The college students that come out of those universities tend to end up mentally damaged and pretty unsuccessful in life (I grew up with a few that took the plunge). That state truly is the epitome of "we equate any kind of change with progress". The next one on the list would be Oregon but no state goes as far with its retardation on college campuses as California.

You need to prove you deserve that name tbh

Pretty rad.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
There's no chance he's fighting Vader while possessed, lmfao.

You guaranteed us that Valkorion was a non-Force sensitive too.

Originally posted by SunRazer
You guaranteed us that Valkorion was a non-Force sensitive too.

Are you sure, that you replied in the right thread?

It was a few pages back. Just making a friendly jab at Ant 🙂

Some of the other discussions here don't deserve a response, lmao.

K'then.
Just remembered. He meant Maul.

I know that. I'm jabbing at Ant's certainty that this or that won't happen, since he was once certain of Valkorion being a non-Force sensitive, which was obviously ridiculous.

It's just a joke, lol.

Lol.

I know, I just don't remembered that It was about Maul.

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
Yes, well done fated, given your inability to follow topical conversations, an earnest pat on the back for correctly responding to the general subject, is quite in order. Yes, that happens to be Trump's opponent, Hillary Clinton (you may know her as the cunt) who had an epic meltdown off-stage of her recent debate with Matt Lauer. An insider source at NBC leaked the transcript

“will have us swinging from nooses”…wew, that’s an oddly descriptive choice of phrase from America’s Sociopath Schoolmarm. A couple thoughts about her noose reference:

In context with her alt-right moral panic speech, this is additional evidence that Hillary herself reads samizdat posts like this one, or has the information contained in dissident websites relayed to her through a lackey. It’s not for nothing that “Day of the Rope” allusions are practically a by-line in the alt-right universe.

My best guess is that, due to a degenerative neurological disease, Hillary Clinton, like her misfit SJW supporters, is experiencing increasingly frequent and severe detachments from reality, leading her to imagine scenarios like DOTR that, while eminently justified, are extremely unlikely to occur… unless she keeps pressing her anti-White pro-globalist agenda, at which time the noose may swing for traitors in real world places outside of their martyrdom fantasies.

No one sane or objective takes those 'inside looks' seriously, lmao. "Hitler-like rage down"? LOL.

pretty

Don't know who to believe. You two should duel to death.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Don't know who to believe. You two should duel to death.

You shold duel with Joker to death. Let Joker win, btw.
@Chicken Nah, Bart is more trustable.

A 17 year old fugg beating me is beyond believable. It would be an obvious fraud.

Spoiler:
Love you tho Joker.

idk I'm pretty sure id get beat by this 12 year old fugg