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Originally posted by Emperordmb

The entire post you just made isn't helping your case.

Originally posted by Emperordmb

It isn't addictive lmfao. This has been scientifically proven.

the opposite is true i'm afraid to say "lmfao". in fact 4 million are addicted right now according to official website..... 😬

https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/marijuana-addictive

Originally posted by Emperordmb
And alcohol has far more potential for abuse than marijuana... yet the vast majority of people who drink alcohol that I know aren't alcoholics, or "junkies"

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Which is statistically nothing. Less than 100 people die in Colorado per year from marijuana related accidents, while thousands of deaths result from the use of alcohol, and even aspirin.

lol are you hearing yourself right now??? 100 people die and that's statistically nothing to you??? each of those people had a family who loved them dearly and will killed by that devilish drug!! are you even hearing yourself right now? also stop trying to change the topic away from marijuana and to aspirin which is actually designed to help people and isn't designed for psycho purposes. also alcohol is different as i will explain down below when i respond to your comment about God and alcohol.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Weed shops aren't allowed to sell alcohol to kids... that video was pure fluff and propaganda with no real substance behind it.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
It doesn't make you a junkie because its not ****ing addictive, holy ****, this is one of the most retarded anti-weed arguments I've ever heard.

once again that is wrong and has been disproven by facts. you only need to quick google search to find out that addiction does happen and people become junkies. maybe not all cases or even majority but loads do.

https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/marijuana-addictive

Originally posted by Emperordmb
This is a ****ing joke, from sophomore to senior year I smoked weed every other day and graduated high school in the top 3.5% of my class.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
funny thing is, my first job was a job I got with the intention of using a good portion of that money to pay for weed... looks like weed motivated me to be a contributing member of society.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
"Hallucinating crazy stuff" lmfao. And people actually overdose and have health problems from consuming too much caffeine.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Again, stop spouting this shit, weed isn't ****ing addictive and it's not gonna turn you into a ****ing junkie.

https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/marijuana-addictive

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Even if it is ****ing legalized they'd get in trouble for selling it to kids.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
And there's much more rational, level-headed potheads that want to blaze it up without having to worry about getting arrested, but they can't because of fear-mongering assholes like you.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
That or let people make up their own ****ing minds as to what they do and don't put in their body, especially when it's concerning a substance much safer than several substances we actually allow people to make that choice with.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
The Bible has several references to people drinking alcohol... Church gives people alcohol... Church gives children alcohol... Jesus turned water to wine... and the Bible encourages drinking alcohol at a few points

Go, eat your food with gladness, and drink your wine with a joyful heart, for God has already approved what you do.
Ecclesiastes 9:7
He makes grass grow for the cattle, and plants for people to cultivate- bringing forth food from the earth: wine that gladdens human hearts, oil to make their faces shine, and bread that sustains their hearts.
Psalm 104:14-15

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Alcohol is objectively much worse than marijuana, so stop spouting this horseshit. By your line of thought here we should also criminalize fast food, and desert, and throw people in jail or fine them if they don't exercise enough. Or we could be normal sensible people and leave it up to the ****ing person.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Pleasure for the sake of pleasure... as opposed to pleasure for the sake of suffering?

By that line of logic we should get rid of alcohol, cake, games, playgrounds, fast food, toys, etc, which you can feel free to argue if you want but don't expect anyone to agree with you.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
America is a ****ing secular country founded on religious freedom and a separation of church and state.

I'm a Christian and I have encountered numerous people who hold a negative view of Christianity, and it's because of people like you. Please for the love of God stop this shit. Not only are you spreading retardation... you are making good Christians everywhere look like ignorant dicks, and making Christian bashers feel justified in their actions.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Yeah, and alcohol, pharmaceuticals, and yes caffeine, can all also be linked to mental disorders.

Originally posted by Emperordmb

Yes I'm sure the ****ing drug war doesn't target drug dealers. The drug war is failing because it's a lost cause.

Originally posted by Emperordmb

No, that's bullshit. While in middle school, I had several people who worked for the government in some form or another come in to explain the "dangers of drugs", and looking back on it with the knowledge I have now, they lied to us, telling us drugs were much worse than they actually are.

Middle School Gym class taught me that "just one hit of marijuana can kill you" (it can't)

Some ***** who came to educate us about drugs in some health program or some shit told us gems like "LSD stays in your body for five years" (it only stays in your body for 3-4 days at most), and "some guy on LSD got permanently ****ed up and thought he was an orange" (which a quick Google search can tell you is a bullshit urban legend and not true)

We don't need to try and scare kids even more about drugs, because we're already exaggerating the negative qualities of drugs by lying to their faces in school. The opposition to marijuana is so ridiculous that they lie to children in school, which if you ask me is a much graver immorality than anything related to smoking weed.

Originally posted by Emperordmb

Kinda hard to do that when your wasting money on a failed drug war isn't it?

Originally posted by Emperordmb

Weed is only legal in Colorado if you're 21... holy **** it feels like I'm talking to a ****ing brick wall

Originally posted by Emperordmb

There are more reasons to favor economic prosperity than just the public view of the government.

HITLER HITLER

Originally posted by aalyasecura95
and insulting me doesn't help your case either because it suggest the pot had made you angry and impulsive just like the commercials say

You clearly don't understand how weed works lol.

Originally posted by aalyasecura95
the opposite is true i'm afraid to say "lmfao". in fact 4 million are addicted right now according to official website..... 😬

https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/marijuana-addictive

Calling it "addiction" is completely retarded and a misnomer used by people who want to make marijuana out as being worse than it actually is.

At worst you get a psychological dependence which according to the website you linked takes about two weeks to break, and its psychological so your body isn't harmed by addiction withdrawl symptoms.

And it doesn't say 4 million are "addicted" it says 4 million "abused" the substance, which the article fails to define the criteria for, an again you can't be addicted to marijuana. On the other hand, I've seen statistics that suggest 1 in every 12 adults suffers from alcohol abuse (which is objectively much worse than and marijuana dependence), and that a significant portion of US citizens are chemically addicted to caffeine (which has much worse withdrawl symptoms than weed since it's actually addictive.

Originally posted by aalyasecura95
alcohol is not the same as marijuana and you know that. alcohol is not a gateway drug. please stop the false equivalents.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/01/06/the-real-gateway-drug-thats-everywhere-and-legal/

If marijuana is a gateway drug, it's not as much of one as alcohol, and doesn't carry nearly the same potential for abuse.

Originally posted by aalyasecura95
lol are you hearing yourself right now??? 100 people die and that's statistically nothing to you??? each of those people had a family who loved them dearly and will killed by that devilish drug!! are you even hearing yourself right now? also stop trying to change the topic away from marijuana and to aspirin which is actually designed to help people and isn't designed for psycho purposes. also alcohol is different as i will explain down below when i respond to your comment about God and alcohol.

Originally posted by aalyasecura95
how can you be sure of that??? there are plenty of people who sell other stuff to kids. how can you trust that every shop owner will refuse kids because of profit. teenagers and kids will be their biggest customers and they will gladly selll them. that is why in colorado they make marijuana candy.

The fact of the matter is having a legal market for marijuana creates a legal distinction between selling to kids and selling to adults, since one is legal and one isn't.

If it's illegal to sell to anyone, people trying to make a profit on it aren't going to care who they sell it to because it carries the same risk and penalty. On the other hand if they can legally make money selling it to adults (which is a pretty damn profitable business), they'd be far less likely to risk legal trouble selling it to kids when they don't have to risk legal trouble to begin with.

Originally posted by aalyasecura95
once again that is wrong and has been disproven by facts. you only need to quick google search to find out that addiction does happen and people become junkies. maybe not all cases or even majority but loads do.

https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/marijuana-addictive

Originally posted by aalyasecura95
exception not the rule. 😬

Originally posted by aalyasecura95
right but that is crappy motivation. if weed is your only motivation then you need to rethink your life and have proper ambitions not just working at mcdonalds and buying weed....

Shit half the people I met on the job also smoked weed, and if I remember my lifeguard training properly only one person has died from drowning in a City of Austin pool in the past several years... huh, seems like stoners can be contributing members of society.

Originally posted by aalyasecura95
so some people have psychological side effects from weed and you think thats a joke??? this is disgusting, this is devilish. there are people who are suffering right now and you laugh...

And several pharmaceuticals also increase the risk of schizophrenia, and alcohol also does. There's also evidence that suggests the intake of caffeine worsens schizophrenic symptoms.

Originally posted by aalyasecura95
except that we can't be everywhere at once and that will happen obviously....

Originally posted by aalyasecura95
yes insulting me again because of what the drugs do to your brain and make you psycho. calm down and let's have a civilized discussion and stop being patriarchal finger pointer.

Originally posted by aalyasecura95
omg, you did not seriously just do that???? compare the ceremonial blood of Christ to your devilish drug??? i am gobsmacked right now. also it is talking about wine which is made from grapes which have other uses not just make you feel good.

Originally posted by aalyasecura95
can you point to me in the Bible where it allows you take weed and be a junkie? no i dont think so.

Originally posted by aalyasecura95
stop with these false equivalences. one is a gateway drug made from a plant that does nothing but give drugs. the other is made from grapes which can be eaten and used for other things and are reward for human labor in the olden days and in present agricultural societies.

So yes, the Cannabis plant does have some rather extraordinary uses aside from producing pot that has a ridiculously high potential for helping our environment, and we fail to make anywhere near the use we could make of hemp solely due to the fact that marijuana is illegal.

Seems pretty retarded if you ask me.

Originally posted by aalyasecura95
God also did not endorse abuse or addiction . not to mention he gave us our kidneys to deal with stuff like alcohol whereas he didn't give us any special organ for taking the psycho drugs. this is shocking.

Originally posted by aalyasecura95
but again the only use for marijuana is just get high like psycho. fast food, cake and stuff at least feeds you and keeps you from hunger. also we at least have a way of disposing of alcohol through the kidneys whereas drugs like pot pollute your body.

And weed can also be used to reduce things like stress, and be a sleep aid. Or benefit bone health.

Originally posted by aalyasecura95
no america was founded on the christian values of the founding fathers. that is anti-Christian propaganda that you are parroting.

Originally posted by aalyasecura95
also just because you have embraced the devilish drugs and atheist arguments does not mean i'm retarded for not doing that and i will continue speaking my mind because i am right according to Bible. our bodies are a temple of the holy spirit and they should not be polluted by these substances.

Also "devilish drugs"? I'm pretty sure the bible states that plants (a category which includes cannabis), were created by God for us.

Genesis 1:12 - And the earth brought forth grass, [and] herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed [was] in itself, after his kind: and God saw that [it was] good.

Genesis 1:29 - And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which [is] upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which [is] the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

Genesis 9:3 - Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.

Oh but forget God's creation and the Bible... the Cannabis plant was totally made by Satan... because that's totally supported somewhere in the Bible (sarcasm).

Originally posted by aalyasecura95
alcohol is not a gateway drug and we have systems to dispose of it and God likely gave us alcohol for reward of agricultural work like i mentioned earlier. pharmaceuticals are purely for helping people and don't try to alter your mind unless you need it. caffeine is supposed to stimulate you without getting high. all false equivalents.

Originally posted by aalyasecura95
honestly this will sound bad but i believe to keep kids away from drugs then things may need to be told in a different way because there is no way they will keep away from them. to many kids it is cool to smoke marijuana and we should be demonizing the habit from a young age. i'm glad they are educating but they need to do more that is what i am saying.

If you're going to flaunt Bible rhetoric, then at least adhere to the commandment "thou shalt not lie"

And even aside from the Bible, it's obvious that lying to children, in a place where we're supposed to be educating them on the truth, is a terrible inexcusable thing.

Originally posted by aalyasecura95
well even if we were to boost spending on it, it still would only take a very small portion of the budget. we should be more worried about excessive waste spending and tax evasion than letting drug dealers off the hook for a few billion dollars.

Originally posted by aalyasecura95
right but having it leagalized makes it far more available. imagine older kids/siblings purchasing weed for their younger kids/siblings. i mean common sense....

Originally posted by aalyasecura95
implying that legalizing drugs would bring about economic prosperity 😬 . you far left wing types have very simple views on the economy. more junkies on the streets for only decent extra revenue at the state level which will be easily made up for handouts to junkies and is not worth the damage to our society.

Originally posted by Emperordmb

You think pot... makes people angry and impulsive...?

You clearly don't understand how weed works lol.

http://www.drugfreeworld.org/drugfacts/marijuana/short-and-long-term-effects.html

Originally posted by Emperordmb That's how the government defines it, and I'm not inclined to trust the government that much in regards to weed when it sends people to lie to children, has marijuana classed as a schedule I drug, and recently had a Drug Czar (really high government position) who wouldn't admit marijuana wasn't as bad as heroin despite having no arguments to back him up.

Calling it "addiction" is completely retarded and a misnomer used by people who want to make marijuana out as being worse than it actually is.

At worst you get a psychological dependence which according to the website you linked takes about two weeks to break, and its psychological so your body isn't harmed by addiction withdrawl symptoms.

And it doesn't say 4 million are "addicted" it says 4 million "abused" the substance, which the article fails to define the criteria for, an again you can't be addicted to marijuana. On the other hand, I've seen statistics that suggest 1 in every 12 adults suffers from alcohol abuse (which is objectively much worse than and marijuana dependence), and that a significant portion of US citizens are chemically addicted to caffeine (which has much worse withdrawl symptoms than weed since it's actually addictive.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Alcohol is a gateway drug LMFAO

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/01/06/the-real-gateway-drug-thats-everywhere-and-legal/

If marijuana is a gateway drug, it's not as much of one as alcohol, and doesn't carry nearly the same potential for abuse.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Statistically, that is nothing compared to the number of people who die from other drugs, people who die from texting and driving, people who die from teen driving, people who die from the drug war, and the number of lives lost through prison sentences based on marijuana's status as a schedule I drug.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
I could say the exact same thing about gun stores, bars, liquor stores, etc.

The fact of the matter is having a legal market for marijuana creates a legal distinction between selling to kids and selling to adults, since one is legal and one isn't.

If it's illegal to sell to anyone, people trying to make a profit on it aren't going to care who they sell it to because it carries the same risk and penalty. On the other hand if they can legally make money selling it to adults (which is a pretty damn profitable business), they'd be far less likely to risk legal trouble selling it to kids when they don't have to risk legal trouble to begin with.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Not really considering at least half of the students in my high school calculus class regularly smoked weed, and most of them graduated near the top of my class. Huh... seems like stoners can keep their academic lives in check.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
I was lifeguarding, not working at McDonalds. And at the time I was in High School living with my parents with no car or driver's license, so the fact that I didn't have that much more motivation for working at the time doesn't mean I need to rethink my ****ing life.

Shit half the people I met on the job also smoked weed, and if I remember my lifeguard training properly only one person has died from drowning in a City of Austin pool in the past several years... huh, seems like stoners can be contributing members of society.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Weed doesn't make you have "crazy hallucinations."

And several pharmaceuticals also increase the risk of schizophrenia, and alcohol also does. There's also evidence that suggests the intake of caffeine worsens schizophrenic symptoms.

http://www.drugfreeworld.org/drugfacts/marijuana/short-and-long-term-effects.html

And it will happen regardless of whether or not it's legal, the same way it happens with alcohol, and prescription drugs.

Originally posted by Emperordmb

Again, if you think that, you don't understand how marijuana works.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
So what if wine is made from grapes? The fact of the matter is that if it's wine being discussed, then it's an alcoholic beverage.

Originally posted by Emperordmb

Can you point out where in the Bible it says we're allowed to use the internet? no i dont think so... well... time for you to log off KMC and end this ridiculous argument then 👆

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Cannabis is a plant that does more than produce drugs. It also produces hemp, which can be used to make a fibrous material that is similar to plastic but stronger and biodegradable. One acre of cannabis can generate enough hemp to produce four times as much paper as an acre of trees.

So yes, the Cannabis plant does have some rather extraordinary uses aside from producing pot that has a ridiculously high potential for helping our environment, and we fail to make anywhere near the use we could make of hemp solely due to the fact that marijuana is illegal.

Originally posted by Emperordmb

The human body has cannabinoid receptors meant to receive the cannabinoids in weed (the compounds that actually get you high). So yeah, you do have body parts that are meant to receive these substances.

Originally posted by Emperordmb

Weed leaves your body too, you do know this right...?

And weed can also be used to reduce things like stress, and be a sleep aid. Or benefit bone health.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
The founding fathers put separation of church and state in the constitution that our government is built upon.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Weed doesn't pollute your body any more than alcohol or fast food does, and most of the impacts proven by weed are positive to one's health.

Also "devilish drugs"? I'm pretty sure the bible states that plants (a category which includes cannabis), were created by God for us.

Genesis 1:12 - And the earth brought forth grass, [and] herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed [was] in itself, after his kind: and God saw that [it was] good.

Genesis 1:29 - And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which [is] upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which [is] the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

Genesis 9:3 - Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.

Oh but forget God's creation and the Bible... the Cannabis plant was totally made by Satan... because that's totally supported somewhere in the Bible (sarcasm).

Originally posted by Emperordmb

And our body has a way of processing weed as well in such a way that it leaves our body, and possesses specific receptors for processing the compounds that get us high.

Originally posted by Emperordmb

So you're saying we should lie to children, it's a good thing that we're lying to children, and we need to do more to lie to children.

If you're going to flaunt Bible rhetoric, then at least adhere to the commandment "thou shalt not lie"

And even aside from the Bible, it's obvious that lying to children, in a place where we're supposed to be educating them on the truth, is a terrible inexcusable thing.

Originally posted by Emperordmb

And this also happens with alcohol.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Economic studies suggest that legalizing weed has greatly benefitted Colorado's economy, and Colorado is the state with the 4th fastest growing economy in the US.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/states-fastest-growing-economies_us_576449abe4b0853f8bf0ce6e

God is about as real as Vitiate's limitations.

Lmao.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Are they really worse than the receivers of plenty of quarterbacks posting better stats than him who have a minuscule fraction of his natural talent?

Yes, they are. I mean, of course, those QB's are playing quite well, as well. But in terms of creating separation, GB's wideouts have been straight up the worst in the league. Their lack of speed is a factor here, but it hadn't been a problem in the past so I just don't understand what the true problem is. Rodgers also isn't playing his A game right now.

I trust Hillary to not f*ck up, and that's basically my standard for this election. [/B]

I understand this mentality well enough, and I see why you'd trust Hillary to not **** up more than you'd trust Trump, but I still don't see her as a viable candidate for presidency.

Which one you reported my thread which hardly violated any rules? Up until now I've never reported any threads no matter how "butt-hurt" I got. Telling me to an hero or calling me retarded—nope. Sticks and stones may hurt your bones but words will never harm me. I think I'll have a change of heart soon since someone clearly has no self-discipline.

Don't look at me, I don't snitch player.

I've never reported anybody for the year and a half I've been here. Granted that's mostly because I don't know how. 🙂

Despite there being a report button... yep... sounds like Syndicate 👆

Imma report you as soon as I figure this shit out. 🙂

Originally posted by The Ellimist
God is about as real as Vitiate's limitations.

QFT

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
QFT

Put it in my sig boi. 🙂

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Despite there being a report button... yep... sounds like Syndicate 👆

Crime Syndicate would never. Funny as hell though.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Put it in my sig boi. 🙂

Which quote lol

"God is about as real as Vitiate's limitations."