The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

Started by Ziggystardust3,287 pages
Originally posted by Petrus
I don't care what the point was, tbh. My point, is that she's blaming the immigrants for her problems. Which clearly go beyond the presence of aliens in the States.

They probably didn't... Setting aside what mistakes she made to find herself in the situation she’s in, you have to give this woman credit for doing this. She’s homeless and has enough problems to deal with; yet she’s aware enough to realize what’s going on and pissed off enough about it to stage her own personal sit-in supporting the candidate that the media, the so-called “social justice warriors,” and all of her “betters” tell her is Hitler incarnate because he doesn’t toe the PC-bullshit line and because he said “pussy.”

Her solitary protest puts to shame the White shitlib “Occupy Wall Street” social-signaling “protest” carried out by trust-fund babies all across America a few years ago—all of whom are now lining up to social-signal again and vote for Hillary Clinton, the corrupt candidate of Wall Street, Goldman Sachs, and all the other big banks who’ve given her (personally) millions of dollars.

America First. That means Americans First.

We have neither the obligation nor the capacity to take in millions of people (legally or illegally) when we don’t even have jobs for the people that are here. This is our country — not an international job bank, shopping mall or a dumping ground.

"Because he said 'pussy'"? Biggest understatement of the year.

Yeah, that is pretty much what it boils down to.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Why is NBA.com so ****ing awful?

Idk. 🙂

I'm watching the Hawks tonight.

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
They are the responsibility of those countries from which the migrants hail.

Out of curiosity, do you have a justification for this moral standard that isn't circular or is-ought?

Originally posted by Petrus
"Because he said 'pussy'"? Biggest understatement of the year.

You pretty much got logic owned. Now you look foolish.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Out of curiosity, do you have a justification for this moral standard that isn't circular or is-ought?

Oh yes, this is me we're talking about. There's always a justification, but it seems some justifications are too uncomfortable, too close to the bone for the average shitlib's scanner to not burst into overdrive. Please don't accuse me of going on a tangent here, because all of this is relevant to why America needs to house and shelter it's kin before it can protect aliens. The premise is simple, but it goes in deep. The idea of owing all the inhabitants of planet earth a slice of welfare is a failed ideology that promotes assimilation.

Liberals adore assimilation like they do homosexual sex; from a distance, as an abstract concept. When things between tribes aren’t going well, the cuck pipes up to assert all that’s needed is more encouragement to immigrants to “assimilate” to the American Way of Life. The cuck imagines assimilation as some magical process or cosmic intervention that appears after the requisite number of incantations calling for it by name are scattered throughout op-eds and on TV talk shows. Even Cuckservatives are getting in on the assimilation racket (they used to be against it, arguing that America isn’t a melting pot, it’s a salad bowl, but recent trends have them worried the salad bowl is turning into a toxic stew so they’re backtracking to good ol’ assimilation to save their White dispossession project). You’ll hear increasingly frantic calls for Assimilation as Diversity spreads like a black goo over the nation, snuffing out the last strands of societal trust and bonhomie.

Too late. Current events are throwing into stark relief the reality that Assimilationism is a failed ideology, and its failures will become more apparent as there is a rise in the numbers of disparate peoples the ideology must accommodate and manage to meld into a workable social contract. In Europe, it’s not hard to see how a flood of young male and Muslim reinforcements from the Near East and Africa is going to embolden the extant second generation Muslims who may have been born in Europe but who will never be Europeans. The Rapefugees’ behavior is a given; the resident Muslims will be more free to act on their existing fantasies of power and conquest.

A tribe’s essence may sleep, but it never dies. It may lie dormant, but it will never go extinct. As new immigrants gain numerical power and ruling class protection in their host nations, the tribal instinct within their second and third generation cousins already in the country is released from its artificial suppression. The few secular liberal minority tokens that equalist leftoids, in a pique of supreme naivete, assume are representative of all of the minority tribe’s people, will recede to nothingness as their half-hearted voices are drowned out by the ululations of their extended family. To put it more bluntly, that smiling taxi driver praising America will revert with a quickness to the mores and standards of his race as soon as there are enough of his kind in close proximity to safely let his assimilationist mask slip.

Assimilationism doesn’t take long to reach diminishing returns, and even to expose the absorbing culture to deleterious regression to the behavioral norms of the immigrants. The more immigrants, and the more different the immigrants, the less likely assimilation is to work, and the more likely assimilationist rhetoric will ramp up to conceal its ineffectiveness. Assimilation to the host nation’s way of life can work, but only under very strict preconditions:

1) Native blood take priority above all

[b]2) the immigrants are not genetically and culturally distant from the native population into which they are assimilating - Muslims need not apply

3) the number of immigrants don’t exceed a threshold above which their natural born racial characteristics can’t be contained and redirected into expressions more compatible with the host nation’s culture.

4) the host nation culture has the self-confidence and pride of place to demand total acquiescence to its norms from the arriving immigrants.

Western nations are currently failing on all three assimilation preconditions: Post-1965 immigrants are almost entirely nonWhite, the numbers of them are astronomical, and the host nations have lost faith in themselves while they bend over backwards to assist immigrants in retaining and celebrating the cultures of the homelands they abandoned for Western prosperity. Even when assimilation “works” — e.g., when Anglo-Germanic America absorbed millions of Southern and Eastern Europeans in the late 19th and early 20th centuries — there are immense costs and miseries that must be overcome along the way. And those costs are never completely paid off. Irish-Americans to this day still vote more Leftist than a typical Olde Anglo-Germanic American of yore would have been comfortable voting . And Italian-American communities have more corruption than adjacent Anglo communities. And don’t get me started on the Eskimos…

But the Irish, the Italians, the Poles, et al are White ethnics, meaning that they aren’t so genetically and culturally dissimilar from Anglo-Germanic Whites that their assimilation into the American fabric was ordained to fail absent the heavy hand of a police and surveillance state to keep everyone in line. Plus, their immigration was halted in the 1924 Act to preserve the Anglo White character of America. Intermarriage with other Whites further helped their assimilation, and this White ethnic intermarriage also contributed to the unique characteristics of Americans relative to their Old Country European cousins. This was a history of ethnicity-mixing among already high-achieving peoples (compared to world standards) that buttressed America’s strength.

So past immigrant waves to the US satisfied, more or less, assimilation preconditions #1 and #2, and from all accounts #3 was also operative up until oh, 1970 or so. The assimilation calculation has changed a lot since then, (but don’t tell the Ellis Island schmaltz shoppers that). Now the US’s immigrants couldn’t be more genetically/culturally different from the Anglo-Germanic substrate, couldn’t be more numerically unmanageable, and couldn’t be more free to avoid assimilation to a native stock American norm in favor of a globalist multikult credo. This is a recipe for the complete annihilation of the historical American culture (and subcultures).

I should mention there’s one other way assimilation can work when the above three preconditions aren’t met: Assimilation to a new norm via race mixing. This is the goal of the globo-homo elite. They want historic America to die in a hodge-podge of race-mixed mediocrities and consumers of perishable goods, who will then assimilate to a new, recombined America that is changed for eternity right down to its DNA.

For the record, Ziggystardust's immigration policy proposals :

-sixty year (i.e., three generations) immigration moratorium

- deportation of all illegals

- end of birthright citizenship

- Favored immigrant status extended to North West Europeans when immigration flow is re-opened

- South and East Europeans receive second favored status

- immigrants from all other groups admitted based on education/skill and only in trivial numbers

Reading this, I’m sure a shitlib’s head is about to go Scanners, but perspective is a beautiful virtue. A mere sixty years ago, this immigration policy list would have been considered eminently sensible and uncontroversial by the vast majority of Americans. Here’s to hoping Trump Makes America Sensible Again.

In summary :

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Out of curiosity, do you have a justification for this moral standard that isn't circular or is-ought?
Why must you encourage him?

we need immigrants they make us richer according to organizations like the IMF. the refugee crisis means there are a lot of people who want to come to america and we should accept that. remember that immigrants do lots of jobs that normal americans can't be bothered to do because we are actually a lazy country when you think about it lol. the color of immigrants is irrelevant imo, we must accept them as citizens of are country.

Originally posted by Petrus
True! Sexiest zodiac symbol tbh
Originally posted by |King Joker|
Amen to that 🙂 🙂

👆

Love, when you're able please check PM. 🙂

Random question Ziggy: why do you conveniently fail to take any of these positions at SDN? mmm

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Idk. 🙂

I'm watching the Hawks tonight.

Can't really watch NBA anymore, because of shit like school 🙁

Originally posted by aalyasecura95
we need immigrants they make us richer according to organizations like the IMF. the refugee crisis means there are a lot of people who want to come to america and we should accept that. remember that immigrants do lots of jobs that normal americans can't be bothered to do because we are actually a lazy country when you think about it lol. the color of immigrants is irrelevant imo, we must accept them as citizens of are country.

No seriously, where's your real post?

FBI RE OPENED INVESTIGATION ON CLINTON😂

HAVE FUN!

Originally posted by Surtur
No seriously, where's your real post?
that is the real post lol. those are the facts according to economic experts. immigrants make us richer and their color doesn't matter. racism fails lol (and patriarchy, lol thanks for putting up a video of genuine testimonies of women who have suffered under the patriarchy.... very helpful).

Ellim, I'm sorry but that question is not worth my time, and I feel I've given you plenty. In any case, you know the answer but not the details. Moving on :

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
FBI RE OPENED INVESTIGATION ON CLINTON😂

HAVE FUN!

I've always said that thecunt shouldn't be fighting for presidency, but rather fighting against jail sentence. It’s not like anyone who isn’t snorting Clinton’s magic muff dust needs the additional confirmation that she’s a corrupt wicked bitch, but here’s another log to add to the inferno that will be thecunt’s eternal lair in the short time it takes for her Parkinson’s to progress past the point where her security detail and the media can’t hide it anymore. Close Clinton ally gave $467,500 to wife of FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe who was investigating Clinton beforehand - click me.

I've constructed a WikiLeaks Crib Sheet (because it’s getting hard to keep track of Hillary Clinton’s corrupt dealings) that bares all.

Yes, some of these scandals are superficial, the point is that if any one of these misdemeanours involved a Trump operative, it would create a firestorm in the legacy media channels that would aim to nuke Trump’s candidacy. But since they involve Hillary campaign consultants or the wicked b[u]i[/i]tch herself, the paid-off media will try its hardest to suppress or ignore it so that they can continue on their merry way hefting Hillary’s rotten husk across the finish line first. Let's hope the thecunt gets jailed before that.

Originally posted by aalyasecura95
that is the real post lol. those are the facts according to economic experts. immigrants make us richer and their color doesn't matter. racism fails lol (and patriarchy, lol thanks for putting up a video of genuine testimonies of women who have suffered under the patriarchy.... very helpful).

Oh so which economic experts conducted in depth scientific analysis into the notion of "Americans don't want to do the jobs illegals do". Link me to that study, and remember I am not looking for people who don't want to do these jobs because greedy businessmen can pay illegals under the table to do it cheaper. I want studies showing people not wanting to do shitty menial labor jobs that still allow them to earn a decent wage. I know someone who shovels shit for a living. Surely he is secretly an illegal, yes? Americans are lazy, so he must be illegal. BTW British people have bad teeth and French people smell bad.

Would you be shocked if I told you a not so small number of economic experts find the wage gap total bullshit?

Originally posted by Surtur
Oh so which economic experts conducted in depth scientific analysis into the notion of "Americans don't want to do the jobs illegals do". Link me to that study, and remember I am not looking for people who don't want to do these jobs because greedy businessmen can pay illegals under the table to do it cheaper. I want studies showing people not wanting to do shitty menial labor jobs that still allow them to earn a decent wage. I know someone who shovels shit for a living. Surely he is secretly an illegal, yes? Americans are lazy, so he must be illegal. BTW British people have bad teeth and French people smell bad.

Would you be shocked if I told you a not so small number of economic experts find the wage gap total bullshit?

lmao obviously there are many exceptions, but you will find that illegal immigrants do get exploited more than natives.... that's an obvious fact... because they are not legal and can't seek help from the government if they get abused. many americans are willing to do menial jobs but if you used to have a well paying job and lost it you would much prefer a job similar to the one you used to have and not take the bad jobs which immigrants usually have to take. and it's not an stereotype because it is happening all over the world. people are discriminating against illegals when we get lots of benefits over them and are not exploited. thats unfair and racist.