The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

Originally posted by truejedi
I think it is funny that in town-hall meeting after town-hall meeting, the people have shouted down the politicians, and said 'We don't want your healthcare" and yet you see them treat it like a coordinated effort to disrupt the proceedings.

Its not coordinated, though i'm sure that thought helps liberals sleep better at night. People are angry, and rightfully so. There should be no public health care if Congress and the Senate, and the Executive branch doesn't have to use the same health care. That's a no-brainer.

Isn't it coordinated? Hannity had a guest last night encouraging the elderly (as well as others) to "terrorize" their congressmen (during the recess).

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
Isn't it coordinated? Hannity had a guest last night encouraging the elderly (as well as others) to "terrorize" their congressmen (during the recess).

would suggesting someone go speak up for themselves actually count as coordination?

When the 'suggestion' includes deliberate misinformation (Communal standards and *death panels*) then yes, yes it does. That the h8 machine is manipulating the masses into a frenzy indirectly doesn't mean that it isn't still responsible.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32363493/ns/msnbc_tv-countdown_with_keith_olbermann/

I think the text is the transcript of his rant, it was phenomenal. (Also, it pandered to my own biases so I liked it even more.)

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
When the 'suggestion' includes deliberate misinformation (Communal standards and *death panels*) then yes, yes it does. That the h8 machine is manipulating the masses into a frenzy indirectly doesn't mean that it isn't still responsible.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32363493/ns/msnbc_tv-countdown_with_keith_olbermann/

I think the text is the transcript of his rant, it was phenomenal. (Also, it pandered to my own biases so I liked it even more.)

i don't have time to read the whole thing right now, i will tonight, but the first thing that jumps out at me is this: Is that really supposed to be news? For those who try to claim that msnbc is unbiased, clicking on that link should change your mind.

However, i think i will start calling Obama, Obama the Liar in the spirit of that article that calls Palin Sarah the Quitter.

Since Msnbc can do it without being biased, so can I.

Um... Keith Olberman is an entertainer. He was not presenting news, he was presenting an opinion of the news. Would you call a newspaper biased because it hires an op-ed columnist to present opinions in the proper place?

Spoiler:
The correct answer is 'no.'

While MSNBC is (strongly) biased, categorizing it thus because of Olberman is foolish. Anyway, I wasn't presenting it as news any more than I would present a Dawkins rant as Science. It was simply an eloquent expression of a viewpoint that parallels my own.

So your umbrage is, quite aside from being misplaced, laughable.

And CNN isn't biased? Please. I think we can all agree that Obama said what he had to, to get elected, and then started his own ridiculously illogical agendas.

Red Nemesis
Um... Keith Olberman is an entertainer. He was not presenting news, he was presenting an opinion of the news. Would you call a newspaper biased because it hires an op-ed columnist to present opinions in the proper place?

Spoiler:
The correct answer is 'no.'

While MSNBC is (strongly) biased, categorizing it thus because of Olberman is foolish. Anyway, I wasn't presenting it as news any more than I would present a Dawkins rant as Science. It was simply an eloquent expression of a viewpoint that parallels my own.

So your umbrage is, quite aside from being misplaced, laughable.

Olbermann
Whether the 'death panel' is something you dreamed, or something you dreamed-up, whether it is the product of a low intellect and a fevered imagination, or the product of a high intelligence and a sober ability to exploit people, you should be ashamed of yourself for having introduced it into the public discourse, and it should debar you, for all time, from any position of responsibility or trust in the governance of this nation or any of its states or municipalities.

DS
And CNN isn't biased?

Besides, they're the right kind of biased. Liberals FTW.

DS
Please. I think we can all agree that Obama said what he had to, to get elected, and then started his own ridiculously illogical agendas.

Originally posted by Eminence
Besides, they're the right kind of biased. Liberals FTW.

Duh. Death panels, subtle Israel hate... he isn't even a goddamn American for crying out loud! [/B]

Notice I don't care about his citizenship or color. I care about his policies which have been retarded at best, devastating at worst. Not to mention, he's spent over 1.4 trillion dollars thus far for NOBODY's benefit, and it's only been 6 months. He's well on his way to surpassing the Bush administration and putting this country into economic collapse.

Btw since you love Obama unconditionally, please tell me what(if anything) he has done for this country...I'll wait. Shouldn't take you long.

DS
Oh, you mean the same liberal economists who are destroying this country with their hilarious monetary and fiscal mismanagement? Liberalism needs to go the way of the Roman and Greek Empires before them.

Yeah sounds good man.

DS
Notice I don't care about his citizenship or color. I care about his policies which have been retarded at best, devastating at worst. Not to mention, he's spent over 1.4 trillion dollars thus far for NOBODY's benefit, and it's only been 6 months. He's well on his way to surpassing the Bush administration and putting this country into economic collapse.

Btw since you love Obama unconditionally, please tell me what(if anything) he has done for this country...I'll wait. Shouldn't take you long.

He's a... he's an Arab. 😐

Originally posted by Eminence
Expand throughout the entirety of the known world, establish the largest unified empire in history, and eventually be torn apart by barbarians to leave its lands in darkness and turmoil for a few hundred years?

Yeah sounds good man.

Love Obama? Are you high?

He's a... he's an Arab. 😐

Thank you, I win.

Well, more unified than the Mongols for sure. 😐

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I wasn't presenting it as news any more than I would present a Dawkins rant as Science.

Edit to:
I wasn't presenting it as news any more than I would present a Dawkins rant about religion as Science.

(He started out as a great writer about science and it is regrettable that his current crusade marginalizes his ability to popularize science.)

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
[B]Well, more unified than the Mongols for sure. 😐

DS
Actually I was implying its extinction but thanks for the history lesson.

You should've brought up Hoover or something. Inefficient then, mocked now.

DS
Also I wasn't aware that they were larger and more unified than the Mongols or the British Empire but alright.

DS
Thank you, I win.

Originally posted by Eminence
Well, the Roman Empire went "extinct" and the Western world started to suck, so... congratulations.

No you don't. Obama's death panel's still going to deny your family health care, and when your raucous masturbation breaks your dick off you're screwed, and he shall laugh.

I'm more concerned about hyperinflation and economic collapse.

Hoover was one of the greatest lawmen of this country's history.

crylaugh

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
crylaugh

His only real miscues were denying the existence of the Mafia. It took him until 1957 to have it spelled out to him. Other than that, his war on crime was ridiculously successful.

k

DS
Your history is a little hazy. Sure there were dark ages but the world vastly improved well after the Roman empire.

DS
Not to mention, the Roman Empire was notoriously huge with inflation.

DS
I'm more concerned about hyperinflation and economic collapse.

... You must have had a really shitty life. 😐

Originally posted by Eminence
Right, after they started to adapt many of the principles and ideas the Romans pioneered. Before that happened, you had women, children, and those unemployed medieval philosophers running away from armed rapists on horseback.

Economy > your penis?
My penis is bigger than the economy.

[quote]... You must have had a really shitty life. 😐

No, I just realized what was important and made the time and effort to research things that would keep me financially secure in the future.

What's financial security when you don't have a dick?

You need to sort out your priorities.

Edit: Also, you clearly hate America.