The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

Started by truejedi3,287 pages

i meant debate of course, but okay, ic.

I live like, almost a quarter of the world away. So no.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090821/ap_on_bi_ge/us_bernanke

Is there anyone dumber than this man? I mean besides Greenspan?

Errr, you.

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that's not nice...

Says the guy who devoted an entire thread to how much he hates me....

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THIS IS CRAZY!

Also, DS this is believing in humanity:

Secular Humanism is a way of thinking and living that aims to bring out the best in people so that all people can have the best in life. Secular humanists reject supernatural and authoritarian beliefs. They affirm that we must take responsibility for our own lives and the communities and world in which we live. Secular humanism emphasizes reason and scientific inquiry, individual freedom and responsibility, human values and compassion, and the need for tolerance and cooperation.

Double post:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Annikin_Starkiller
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kane_Starkiller
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Forbidden_Systems

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
THIS IS CRAZY!

Also, DS this is believing in humanity:

Yes, I'm well aware of secular humanism. How could I forget intro to ethics?

So the question 'how can you believe in humanity' has been answered by minds far more eloquent in the subject than mine.

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
So the question 'how can you believe in humanity' has been answered by minds far more eloquent in the subject than mine.

Not exactly, I didn't read any of it. If you want to outline the focal points, go ahead. The last thing I would do is listen to secular humanists.

No, the article was news. Not propoganda for philosophy:

A French Revelation, or The Burning Bush
JAMES A. HAUGHT

Incredibly, President George W. Bush told French President Jacques Chirac in early 2003 that Iraq must be invaded to thwart Gog and Magog, the Bible’s satanic agents of the Apocalypse.

Honest. This isn’t a joke. The president of the United States, in a top-secret phone call to a major European ally, asked for French troops to join American soldiers in attacking Iraq as a mission from God.

Now out of office, Chirac recounts that the American leader appealed to their “common faith” (Christianity) and told him: “Gog and Magog are at work in the Middle East…. The biblical prophecies are being fulfilled…. This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people’s enemies before a New Age begins.”

This bizarre episode occurred while the White House was assembling its “coalition of the willing” to unleash the Iraq invasion. Chirac says he was boggled by Bush’s call and “wondered how someone could be so superficial and fanatical in their beliefs.”

After the 2003 call, the puzzled French leader didn’t comply with Bush’s request. Instead, his staff asked Thomas Romer, a theologian at the University of Lausanne, to analyze the weird appeal. Dr. Romer explained that the Old Testament book of Ezekiel contains two chapters (38 and 39) in which God rages against Gog and Magog, sinister and mysterious forces menacing Israel. Jehovah vows to smite them savagely, to “turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws,” and slaughter them ruthlessly. In the New Testament, the mystical book of Revelation envisions Gog and Magog gathering nations for battle, “and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.”

In 2007, Dr. Romer recounted Bush’s strange behavior in Lausanne University’s review, Allez Savoir. A French-language Swiss newspaper, Le Matin Dimanche, printed a sarcastic account titled: “When President George W. Bush Saw the Prophesies of the Bible Coming to Pass.” France’s La Liberte likewise spoofed it under the headline “A Small Scoop on Bush, Chirac, God, Gog and Magog.” But other news media missed the amazing report.

Subsequently, ex-President Chirac confirmed the nutty event in a long interview with French journalist Jean-Claude Maurice, who tells the tale in his new book, Si Vous le Répétez, Je Démentirai (If You Repeat it, I Will Deny), released in March by the publisher Plon.

Oddly, mainstream media are ignoring this alarming revelation that Bush may have been half-cracked when he started his Iraq war. My own paper, The Charleston Gazette in West Virginia, is the only U.S. newspaper to report it so far. Canada’s Toronto Star recounted the story, calling it a “stranger-than-fiction disclosure … which suggests that apocalyptic fervor may have held sway within the walls of the White House.” Fortunately, online commentary sites are spreading the news, filling the press void.

The French revelation jibes with other known aspects of Bush’s renowned evangelical certitude. For example, a few months after his phone call to Chirac, Bush attended a 2003 summit in Egypt. The Palestinian foreign minister later said the American president told him he was “on a mission from God” to defeat Iraq. At that time, the White House called this claim “absurd.”

Recently, GQ magazine revealed that former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld attached warlike Bible verses and Iraq battle photos to war reports he hand-delivered to Bush. One declared: “Put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground.”

It’s awkward to say openly, but now-departed President Bush is a religious crackpot, an ex-drunk of small intellect who “got saved.” He never should have been entrusted with the power to start wars.

For six years, Americans really haven’t known why he launched the unnecessary Iraq attack. Official pretexts turned out to be baseless. Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction after all, and wasn’t in league with terrorists, as the White House alleged. Collapse of his asserted reasons led to speculation about hidden motives: Was the invasion loosed to gain control of Iraq’s oil—or to protect Israel—or to complete Bush’s father’s vendetta against the late dictator Saddam Hussein? Nobody ever found an answer.

Now, added to the other suspicions, comes the goofy possibility that abstruse, supernatural, idiotic, laughable Bible prophecies were a factor. This casts an ominous pall over the needless war that has killed more than four thousand young Americans and cost U.S. taxpayers perhaps $1 trillion.

Evidence that Obama's massive spending will surpass anything we've ever seen before.

Anyone know what the hell these are?:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f61/t515296.html

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090825/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_economy

Keep up the good work Obama!

I miss enyalus. And MC.

this "let's pretend" BS is getting old real fast.

I like the 'holier than thou' thing Craju Kenobi has going on- like it is the big bad regulars that are pickin on the creative newbies. (When they have been moar belligerent by far.)

he is making us hate each other... He doesn't want to be a part of that. Its kinda funny. How about the other guy: What if you were talking like you knew about something, and actually, you were saying everything wrong, and i pointed out that you were all wrong, how would you feel? You should just leave us alone.

I had to read that one twice. I couldn't believe someone would actually write that. I owe you a post btw. I haven't forgotten, i'll get to it eventually. there have actually been star wars related debates to discuss as of late.

It is astonishing! I'd forgotten that you owed me one, and I'd probably let you get away with it too. I'm so busy gonna be so busy that I'll be real slow on the response too.

RE: pointing out errors

I actually typed up a pretentious response (it started with the phrase 'nothing more or less' which is always a bad sign) but opted for the simplest explanation as the best: SCIENCE works by that very method. Without it we wouldn't have computers?