stating "YOU ARE JUST WRONG- AND THAT IS ALL THERE IS TO IT", is not a discussion. its cognitive dissonance.
earlier you accused me of not adding to the conversation. but here you are ignoring all of the logic that ive presented and not addressing my own points, sufficing with a "zomg that is definitely wrong." how is that adding to the discussion?
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
stating "YOU ARE JUST WRONG- AND THAT IS ALL THERE IS TO IT", is not a discussion. its cognitive dissonance.
its a difference of opinion Marvel. Surely you have experienced a difference of opinion at some point in your life. I just don't see how to reconcile and continue from that basic difference in a point of view.
Astounded was the word I used, and I meant it.
Originally posted by truejedi
and that is your opinion. See how easily that is done?
the fail part is an opinion but the first statement was not. statements like "that is simply wrong" and "thats all there is to it" is a text book hallmark of conservative ideology and moral absolution.
but thats for another time- how about we just go back to this "discussion", hm? hopefully by now youve recovered enough from your shock at my disgustingly liberal and anti-christ like statements to answer my question:
if i walk into a cafeteria and eat my lunch which is french fries with mayonnaise and everyone in the cafeteria is so disgusted by my eating habit that they cant finish their own food am i in the wrong and/or should i suffer legal prosecution? should i get up and leave because everyone else is disgusted? no. **** those people.
... i answered the question at the end so it seems rhetorical but its not 😂 what do you think?
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
anti-christ like rhetoric TO answer my question:
First: We can discuss, but only if you promise to leave religion out of it. I am sick of people dragging religion into topics that have nothing to do with religion. Marvel, if you want to be a christian, or a muslim, or whatever, that's fine, but leave me out of it, please.
That said: Obviously, if you are being disgusting enough in your eating, you will be asked to leave some places, and then removed from that place.
Are you against public nudity laws? I would be okay with them being repealed myself. I don't think it is the governments place to decide. As long as public nudity and public indecency laws exist however, I believe they apply to lockerrooms (which are largely on private property, and labeled men and women's.) Is it not the right of the property owner to decide who goes in which room?
Originally posted by truejedi
First: We can discuss, but only if you promise to leave religion out of it. I am sick of people dragging religion into topics that have nothing to do with religion. Marvel, if you want to be a christian, or a muslim, or whatever, that's fine, but leave me out of it, please.
it was a joke.
That said: Obviously, if you are being disgusting enough in your eating, you will be asked to leave some places, and then removed from that place.
you didnt answer my question. me- my fries and mayonnaise- disgusting everybody else- should i stop eating there or stop eating french fries and maynoaise because everyone else is disgusted by it?
regardless, no you can not be removed from removed from somewhere based upon your eating habits, not with legal backing anyway. there is no law that states that you have to eat a certain way.
Are you against public nudity laws? I would be okay with them being repealed myself. I don't think it is the governments place to decide. As long as public nudity and public indecency laws exist however, I believe they apply to lockerrooms (which are largely on private property, and labeled men and women's.) Is it not the right of the property owner to decide who goes in which room? [/B]the rights of a property owner and the rights of people in general or on a universal scare are a different animal entirely. a land owner can make any restrictions he/she wants regardless of the law.
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
it was a joke.
K. good.
you didnt answer my question. should i stop eating there because everyone else is disgusted by my eating habit?regardless, no you can not be removed from removed from somewhere based upon your eating habits, not with legal backing anyway. there is no law that states that you have to eat a certain way.
Not unless you are removed, no. But, it is completely up the people who own the place you are eating whether you are removed or not.
the rights of a property owner and the rights of people in general or on a universal scare are a different animal entirely. a land owner can make any restrictions he/she wants regardless of the law.
Wouldn't you consider the words "Men's locker room" and "Women's Locker room" fair restrictions?
And I ask you again, would you be okay with public nudity laws being dissolved?
Originally posted by truejedi
Not unless you are removed, no. But, it is completely up the people who own the place you are eating whether you are removed or not.
but in that case it has nothing to do with wither my habit was wrong or not in the first place.
do you think that if my habit disgusted a lot of people i should be removed in the first place? or should leave?
Wouldn't you consider the words "Men's locker room" and "Women's Locker room" fair restrictions?
the rights of a property owner and the rights of people in general or on a universal scare are a different animal entirely.
point being that the rights of land owners dont have anything to do with anything we've been talking about. land owner rights dont take into consideration what is right and wrong nor what people should or should not do, and that has been the topic of the last few pages.
And I ask you again, would you be okay with public nudity laws being dissolved?
personally id be uncomfortable with my professor walking into the classroom nude and expecting us to pay attention to him.
dont mind fools jogging down the street naked though. i ran the bay to breakers once. lots of old naked people running through the streets... didnt bother me too much.
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
congratulations youve got your attention for the day. i can go back to ignoring you for the time being.
I would but you know how I enjoy putting insecure pseudo intellectuals in their place. I wouldn't bother if some of you actually had a clue of what you're talking about.