The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

Started by Autokrat3,287 pages

Double post because KMC is a technologically backward forum that only has a 15m edit window...

Out of curiosity, what were they using Radioisotopic dating to prove?

I'm fully aware of the mechanics of radioisotopic dating. I didn't understand what he meant by this:

Originally posted by One Free Man
What's hilarious is when fellow creationists shun the inaccuracy of carbon-dating then use it to prove they found an artifact from the bible... IDIOTS. KEEP YOUR STORY STRAIGHT. 😠

I didn't mean you, I was addressing him. I should have quoted his post, but I was too lazy.

Originally posted by Autokrat
"Fellow" Creationists?

I really hope you mean Old Earth Creationism.

In fact since I know you will demand I explain:

Radioisotopic dating works like this.

Atoms [...] whatever.

way too long, didn't read. I know how C14 dating works, I'm not here to get into a debate.

The thing is, young earth creationists really have ALOT of rebuttals against carbon dating, and it's all well and good, until someone does this:

The group claims that carbon dating proves the relics are 4,800 years old, meaning they date to around the same time the ark was said to be afloat. Mt. Ararat has long been suspected as the final resting place of the craft by evangelicals and literalists hoping to validate biblical stories.

It's essentially defeating your argument with an attempt to validate it.

young earth creationists really have ALOT of rebuttals against carbon dating

Saying the same thing over and over doesn't translate to A LOT of rebuttals.

A LOT of rebuttals that fail is the same thing as no rebuttals at all.

(If the fundamental forces of the universe changed at some point then the curves of the various isotopes would have shifted in varying amounts. C14 would provide a different "incorrect" age than would Argon or Uranium. That these curves always yield consistent answers (within the margin of error) that coincide with both the sedimentary ages and the growth patterns of ancient coral patterns (which provide a contiguous record for many many many many many years) suggests very strongly that no fatal error has been found by graduates of Diploma Mills with a vendetta.)

I'm not arguing against c14 dating right now. I really don't have time to write pages of debate shit on the internet see Fig. 1.1
<-- Fig. 1.1

I'm essentially saying that these "bible explorers" have pretty much just hamstrung any argument they had that C14 dates inaccurately.

And I'm just saying that they never had any argument at all.

So we're reaching the same place: Creationist phucktards are phucktards. Creationists that aren't phucktards are only phucktards when being phucktards.

(This is true even if you replace "creationist" with any word that is not "phucktard." When "creationist" equals "phucktard" the equation is undefined.)

I prefer to think that neither of us really knows what happened at the beginning of all time, nor has a valid way of dating the beginning of the universe, nor of knowing how it happened.

We're here, stuck in this god forsaken rock, traveling through space around a sun, etc, with no way off. Believing that you're slime descended from slime vs believing that you're a piece of art made in the image of the highest life form imaginable, that's your choice. Doesn't really matter in the long run.

Edit: Except you're going to hell and I'm not.

Also, ad hominem, you son of a *****.

Luckily, the way one blob of carbon combines its blobs of carbon doesn't make a great deal of difference about the actual mechanisms of the universe.

So I don't really care about what you believe (until you start contaminating other blobs of carbon, or make mine get blowd up because you insist on making fun of -BLEEEEP).

I don't even know what the **** you're saying right now. honestly.

Humans are carbon based.

your mom is carbon based

Originally posted by Autokrat
Humans are carbon based.

I know that. Seriously. Why the hell are you being so pedantic?

I was attempting to clarify RN's joke because you appeared not to understand it. As far as I can tell, he was referring to the actions and/or beliefs of human beings (blobs of carbon) and how in the long run, the universe doesn't care about them (I.E he is giving the bird to William James and Peirce... maybe.)

I'm watching The Princess Bride. ****in' classic.

Hello, my name is Inigo Montaya and I have balls carved from pure ****ing diamond.

I cheered when he finally killed the bastard.

In terms of perfect movies, Princess Bride is one of the few ones.

One of the best quotable movies ever.

You know, I was thinking: The Bible begins with "In the beginning, God created the heaven's and the earth,and the earth was without form and void, and God moved upon the face of the waters."

How long between God creating the earth, and creating life on it, do you think DS?

I found that movie to be incredibly annoying.