Thanks GV and DE Luke, but I doubt I'm the best debator around here. There are only specific cases that I can argue. Currently, I'd say that Raz or Lightsnake is the best. Toss up.
Anyways, as for you, Nebaris, your two most recent posts on the Top Ten thread are completely ridiculous. Now, I think you're a poor debator.
Trust me,they weren't good.They were just as bad as Nai.And Kadaj hasn't debated much so it's hard to determine him.Avis is a little low but alittle more decent aswell.
EDIT:You're welcome,dude.But what I say is what I think is the truth,and Razielim has admitted that he isn't better than most of the debaters around here,but I think he's pretty damn good.I consider myself at Lightsnake's level except I don't have his patience,so I'm just below him.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f6/t412163.html
Does anybody agree with this?
Originally posted by GM Nebaris
But you're probably the type that doesn't put any effort into debating, and not get serious into a debate, so it's not necessarily a bad thing.
Anyways what about Kadaj or Avis? people seemed to think TDTD and Numan were bad, but they were actually alright imo.
Meh, true enough. I do't take most of the debates here THAT serious. I am, frankly, too lazy to bother doing all of the work involved: Looking up scans, reviewing comics, quoting crap. Meh...
Some people often can't accept basic logic and feel the need to argue in utterly retarded and big ass blocks of texts. Remember Borborad crying his heart out when Lightsnake told about the creator of some ancient sith lord comics who stated that Sidious was way above them all.
Or remember people constantly spamming the same arguments to go against Lucas' word and movie about Anakin being the only one with Mace and Yoda standing a chance against Palpatine.
People who have no open mind for other people's arguments or reasoning are far from good 'debators' and shouldn't be glorified. I can therefore say that Darth Vious is seriously messed up in the head.
Now you'll probably say Ushgarak has no open mind aswell but he only talks when he actually knows he's right and does not go on like a retard trying to get his way. Most other people immediately have their opinion and don't seem to think before posting.
Then they'll continue because of pride and end up with huge theories which are often unreadable or incomprehensible of which you'll need hours of typing to go against.
People like that should be kicked off the boards without hesitation.
See, now I agree with you, Overlord.
There was an unspoken taboo on these forums that Marka Ragnos was the supreme Dark Side deity and the most powerful Force user ever. When Lightsnake came along, and began to present evidence of what we know now - they all whined. Illustrious, Sorgo, Janus, Fishy, Traya, Tdtd, IKC, and Nai.
I think that I am a pretty open minded person. If there is a fact, a quote, a statement, or something that is black-and-white and not contradicted by another source, then that's the argument for me. I'm convinced.
Vious is delusional as well, yes.
About Ush. I consider Ush to be an excellent debator - when he wants to. I don't see him debating like Rex, frequently. Furthermore, as much as I respect and admire Janus for his phenomenal abilities, I always thought that his dislike for Ush stemmed from the fact that Ush did not let them get away with some of their more notorious antics.
I remember that they all argued against him on the Sidious thread where Ush stated, very plainly, that if Lucas or the NEC stated that Sidious was the most powerful, then that was it. But they argued, and argued, and argued.
But that just goes to show the way they think.
Originally posted by Escape81
About Ush. I consider Ush to be an excellent debator - when he wants to. I don't see him debating like Rex, frequently. Furthermore, as much as I respect and admire Janus for his phenomenal abilities, I always thought that his dislike for Ush stemmed from the fact that Ush did not let them get away with some of their more notorious antics.I remember that they all argued against him on the Sidious thread where Ush stated, very plainly, that if Lucas or the NEC stated that Sidious was the most powerful, then that was it. But they argued, and argued, and argued.
But that just goes to show the way they think.
Well put, Esc. I have rarely seen Ush speak wrong when there's a debate, and he steps out when he realizes that there is too much thick-headedness to prove his point. He's right, he knows he's right, that's all he needs.
Meanwhile, I like to hammer it into people's heads, because I know they're wrong. 😱
And Janus did find fault with Ush due to the notorious antics being harped upon. Same with Sorgo. *shrug* Good guys, nonetheless...mostly.