The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

Reported.

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Cool. For wut?

I'll think of something.

[Anakin]You will try...[/Anakin]

*initiates duel*

Originally posted by Gideon
[Because it's fun and, if you would rub two brain cells together and stop acting like [the Joker/Christopher Nolan], you'd deduce that the presence of the penis comment would indicate that I'm not serious.

So this begs the question, "Why [are you] so serious?"

Whoever said I was serious? Besides, we all know Palpatine has no penis so that’s why I must have missed that.

The real question is, why are you making so little sense? See, I haven’t once called you a Sidious fanboy while you constantly call anyone who doesn’t agree with you on this subject emo or other.

Palpatine is more intelligent. He manipulates events across a galaxy; the Joker only half-way succeeded because everyone around him is a moron (I refer to Dent, Batman, Gordon, etc.) and refuses to kill him.

People actually made an attempt to kill Palpatine and were foiled due to superior intellect and power.

Palpatine > Joker.

You’re contradicting yourself, first you say he is made out to be too smart and that nothing he does fails. And now you’re saying he only half-way succeeded? The Joker’s ‘enemies’ are smarter than Palpatine’s enemies, deal with it. He survived the attempt on his life due to luck first and then because he was more powerful, not because he’s intelligent.

Joker >>>> Palpatine.

Because emo clowns without any skills whatsoever beyond lame-ass motivation, "lawlz i r an agint of khaos, i just do stuffz" is interesting? 😂 😂 😂

Yes, Palpatine has a complex motivation. “Power power power *cackles*

He burned the money because he's stupid, and some people (emoz) might find money-burning to be "cool" and "hip", when it's really just stupid because he could have used that money for greater chaotic purposes. But the Joker's an idiot, so he didn't.[/spoiler]

He already had the money to buy everything he needed. He burned the rest of the money because he didn’t want it. Wait, do you really think he just wants to create chaos?

I know why you are so pissy about him now, you don’t understand the character.

Originally posted by Gideon
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So... the amount of conflict within a villain is indicative to how appealing/interesting he is? Well I guess Palpatine and the Joker both lose to Anakin/Vader, then, because [b]neither of them were conflicted or unsure about their goals. 👿[/B]

Where did I say it was the sole reason? Or where did I even say that being conflicted is a reason? I said that a villain with depth is more appealing. You’re once again involving the Joker in this so okay, the Joker at least makes a point. Palpatine clearly fails in both categories.

Vader himself disagrees with you; he might look more menacing, but he's an eight foot tall cyborg versus a grouchy old man in a bath robe. By the way, Vader's also more menacing than the Joker... so ha.

So yes, you agree that Vader looks/appears more menacing.

Boring politicians kinda run, direct, and otherwise dictate the course of events in this little thing called [b]the real world, whereas people like the Joker occupy carnivals.[/B]

So yes, you agree that he is a boring politician.

Palpatine's an agent of chaosthe Sith, he just does thingskills Jedi.

If you were paying attention to the movie, Palpatine wanted to kill the Jedi... because they would stop him from trying to rule the galaxy. Because they're not morons like Batman and will kill galactic-level threats.

That even simplifies his motivations even more. He just wants to rule the galaxy, not even a vendetta going on here.

They blaspheme!

It’s fact, a higher percentage of the population thinks Vader is a better villain than Palpatine.

Off-topic though: What’s up with all the spoiler tags?

-whips it out-

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Whoever said I was serious?

Because you started to

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cry

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Besides, we all know Palpatine has no penis so that’s why I must have missed that.

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You know this from personal observation do you? Have you been Googling Palpatine pr0n? 😖hifty:

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The real question is, why are you making so little sense? See, I haven’t once called you a Sidious fanboy while you constantly call anyone who doesn’t agree with you on this subject emo or other.

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You could call me a Sidious fanboy, but then I can counter that with my post on my satisfaction with the Dark Knight movie and Heath Ledger's performance, whereas all you've done is b1tch and moan 'cause you are the real fanboy. I'm objective; yer not. So I winz.

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You’re contradicting yourself, first you say he is made out to be too smart and that nothing he does fails.

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He was too smart for the context of the movie; that does not preclude the fact that he failed at everything he did or suggest that he's in Palpatine's league in terms of intelligence.

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And now you’re saying he only half-way succeeded? The Joker’s ‘enemies’ are smarter than Palpatine’s enemies, deal with it.

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No, they're not. You deal with it.

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He survived the attempt on his life due to luck first and then because he was more powerful, not because he’s intelligent.

No, he survived the first attempt on his life because he manipulated Anakin into acting on his behalf (due to intellect).

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Joker >>>> Palpatine.

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Palpatine destroyed the Republic, shattered the Jedi Order, and ruled the galaxy for two decades. The Joker... did nothing of the sort.

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Yes, Palpatine has a complex motivation. “Power power power *cackles*

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The quest for power is something that is historically relevant in this little place called the real world and has created actual world-class threats.

LULZ khaos is the theme of an emo wankfest.

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He already had the money to buy everything he needed. He burned the rest of the money because he didn’t want it. Wait, do you really think he just wants to create chaos?

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What about moar dogs? Moar gunmen? Things that could have actually stopped Batman?

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I know why you are so pissy about him now, you don’t understand the character.

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😂 😂 😂

Enlighten us all on the clown's deep quest and goals.

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Where did I say it was the sole reason? Or where did I even say that being conflicted is a reason? I said that a villain with depth is more appealing. You’re once again involving the Joker in this so okay, the Joker at least makes a point. Palpatine clearly fails in both categories.

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Except the Joker doesn't have any depth, so he loses.

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So yes, you agree that Vader looks/appears more menacing.

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Duh.

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So yes, you agree that he is a boring politician.

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I agree that he is a politician, which makes him more relevant and important to anything than a clown.

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That even simplifies his motivations even more. He just wants to rule the galaxy, not even a vendetta going on here.

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And the Joker's just an agent of chaos; hardly the embodiment of depth.

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It’s fact, a higher percentage of the population thinks Vader is a better villain than Palpatine.[/quote]

[spoiler]Yeah, and more people have purchased Britney Spears' catalogue of hits than that of Rush. Wow! Guess Britney Spears is better than Rush!

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Off-topic though: What’s up with all the spoiler tags?

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To make you ask questions. 'Cause I'm an agent of chaos. I do things.

Blax
-whips it out-

I JUST TRIPPED OVER IT DAMN IT! REEL IT IN!

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Just so you know for certain, Slash, I am not being serious about all of this, but merely enjoy the battle of **** and wits.

The part I am serious about is, of course, that by all objective measurements of intelligence, power, and success, Palpatine is the superior villain, though I won't say that that necessarily makes him the better villain. Joking aside, Heath Ledger's Joker was magnificent and the Dark Knight was superb.

Now I haz moar righting to do. Luvz u.

Edit: And just so I'm really clear, the whole emo remark isn't meant to be a genuine insult wielded with great malice. It's a harmless remark, like when I call someone a skank or bastard or a good-fer-nothin'-small-dick-packin'-son-of-a-*****.

It's church humor.

I know, I'm not taking any of this serious either, I'm just having some fun... The Joker is a better villain though.

now tooo teh responziss:

Originally posted by Gideon
Because you started to

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cry

about this discussion.

No sorry, you must have me confused with

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yourself.

You know this from personal observation do you? Have you been Googling Palpatine pr0n? 😖hifty:

No sorry, you must have me confused with

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yourself.

You could call me a Sidious fanboy, but then I can counter that with my post on my satisfaction with the Dark Knight movie and Heath Ledger's performance, whereas all you've done is b1tch and moan 'cause you are the real fanboy. I'm objective; yer not. So I winz.

Alright it’s time for a good counter: I love Star Wars and I think Ian McDiarmid did a good job portraying Sidious. I think I’ve shown to be more objective than you can even think of being. You even like TDK more than I do. I like Star Wars more than any Batman related material.

He was too smart for the context of the movie; that does not preclude the fact that he failed at everything he did or suggest that he's in Palpatine's league in terms of intelligence.

No you’re right, he’s above Palpatine in terms of intelligence.

No, they're not. You deal with it.

no… u

No, he survived the first attempt on his life because he manipulated Anakin into acting on his behalf (due to intellect).

You forgot the spoiler tags on this one. He counted on Anakin’s stupidity to follow his dream instead of doing the smart thing.

Palpatine destroyed the Republic, shattered the Jedi Order, and ruled the galaxy for two decades. The Joker... did nothing of the sort.

I literally lol’ed at this, because you still don’t get it.

LULZ khaos is the theme of an emo wankfest.

How is this relevant? Or was this just an emotional outburst? 😉

What about moar dogs? Moar gunmen? Things that could have actually stopped Batman?

He could get more money if he needed it, but what would be the challenge in that? Do you really think he wanted to kill Batman?

😂 😂 😂

Enlighten us all on the clown's deep quest and goals.

Sorry, I’m not going to spoon-feed this to you.

Except the Joker doesn't have any depth, so he loses.

Maybe to Vader, although he has other attributes in his favor. But he is still better than Palpatine.

I agree that he is a politician, which makes him more relevant and important to anything than a clown.

So you prefer a boring character to one that can actually capture the interest. Well, your choice.

Yeah, and more people have purchased Britney Spears' catalogue of hits than that of Rush. Wow! Guess Britney Spears is better than Rush!

Vader and Palpatine are in the same movie and they’re both villains...

I honestly have no idea what emo is anymore. Being emotional? Is that a bad thing?

Uh yea dude. So is listening to emo music, watching anime, having a feelings diary, making out with other dudes, and slitting your wrists. Grow a pair....

Go gently caress yourself primeape.

so much angst. to be honest, we never get any motivation for WHY the joker does what he does to batman.

So just because Sidious only has power, doesn't really hurt sidious.

Originally posted by truejedi
so much angst. to be honest, we never get any motivation for WHY the joker does what he does to batman.

'You.... complete... me!'

'You're just too much fun.'

'I think we'll be doing this forever'

Joker just wanted to watch Batman burn. Screw the world (and maybe Batman 😛)

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yeah.... i totally reported you. For being weird.

You suck.

Originally posted by truejedi
yeah.... i totally reported you. For being weird.

Curiosity takes over! What was it?

many bad sexually explicit references all crammed into one. About batman and the joker and sidious. and... mara jade? I don't remember who exactly. But it was in-line with his Betty-White thread.