Originally posted by Nephthys
Why are you celebrating the continuation in the oppression of a group of people? I thought you (and other American's) were like, crazy in love with Freedom.
Weren't we just talking about how crappy oppression was in Iraq etc? [/B]
I'm pretty sure you just compared mythical oppression to actual oppression.
What oppression? There is no oppression, although I'm sure you and the other leftists are trying to look for some. The army is the army and soldiers joining should keep their sexual issues to themselves.
From what I read, it seems like openly gay men and women can't join the army. Thats oppression. It doesn't matter if they scream it from the rooftops if thats what they want to do, banning someone from doing a job over their personal life is pretty much the fvcking definition of oppression. You forcing your views on people over what they 'should do' is just fvcking retarded btw. Good to see you're keeping freedom alive Beefy. 👆
I'm pretty sure you just compared mythical oppression to actual oppression.
Oppression is oppression, big or small.
Originally posted by Nephthys
From what I read, it seems like openly gay men and women can't join the army. Thats oppression. It doesn't matter if they scream it from the rooftops if thats what they want to do, banning someone from doing a job over their personal life is pretty much the fvcking definition of oppression. You forcing your views on people over what they 'should do' is just fvcking retarded btw. Good to see you're keeping freedom alive Beefy. 👆
Oppression is oppression, big or small.
Except one is real and one isn't.
It's not about forcing views, it's about being a distraction. Openly gay people would serve as a distraction while in the army. Just pedophiles, etc. It's perfectly reasonable.
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Oh I hope you did not just equate homosexuals to pedophiles. For your sake, I reeeeally hope that was a typo. And how in the hell would it be a 'distraction'? What, do think they'd be screaming quotes from 'Queer eye for the straight guy' while the others are trying to shoot straight (ba dum bum tish)? Or is it that their very existence would be a distraction to some soldiers? Becuase, let me tell you, those guys can suck it up, they've got bigger things to be distacted over.
Originally posted by Nephthys
😐Oh I hope you did not just equate homosexuals to pedophiles. For your sake, I reeeeally hope that was a typo. And how in the hell would it be a 'distraction'? What, do think they'd be screaming quotes from 'Queer eye for the straight guy' while the others are trying to shoot straight (ba dum bum tish)? Or is it that their very existence would be a distraction to some soldiers? Becuase, let me tell you, those guys can suck it up, they've got bigger things to be distacted over.
I didn't equate homosexuals to pedophiles, I said it doesn't matter which are which because in the army, you need to keep that shit private. I'm fine with homosexuals being in the army as long as they keep that shit to themselves, just like if pedophiles were in the army, they should keep that shit to themselves. This is the army, not your personal feelings diary.
I didn't equate homosexuals to pedophiles, I said it doesn't matter which are which because in the army, you need to keep that shit private. I'm fine with homosexuals being in the army as long as they keep that shit to themselves, just like if pedophiles were in the army, they should keep that shit to themselves. This is the army, not your personal feelings diary.
Yes you did equate them arsebrain. And you seem to forget a few things. Number one, soldiers spend a lot of ****ing time together, they talk. Number two, free speech is a part of the ****ing constitution. Not being able to talk about your personal life punishable with discharged if you happen to be gay is ****ing stupid and wrong. Number three, people have the right to be who they want as long as it doesn't hurt anybody. The army can't ban you becuase they don't like that you stick your dick in the stink rather than the pink; Thats fvcking oppression. Number four, your ****ing opinion on how they should act shouldn't be pushed on other people, they have the right to choose that shit for themselves. Number five, go drink a litre of paint.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Yes you did equate them arsebrain. And you seem to forget a few things. Number one, soldiers spend a lot of ****ing time together, they talk. Number two, free speech is a part of the ****ing constitution. Not being able to talk about your personal life punishable with discharged if you happen to be gay is ****ing stupid and wrong. Number three, people have the right to be who they want as long as it doesn't hurt anybody. The army can't ban you becuase they don't like that you stick your dick in the stink rather than the pink; Thats fvcking oppression. Number four, your ****ing opinion on how they should act shouldn't be pushed on other people, they have the right to choose that shit for themselves. Number five, go drink a litre of paint.
1. Free speech isn't absolute. Proclaiming to be out and proud poses as a distraction for men risking their lives. Try again.
2. Soldiers can talk but you're not going to hear any juicy secrets among the men, whether they are pedophiles, cross dressers, or gay.
3. You're being a typical liberal, foregoing any kind of logic for emotions to get your point across, which isn't really a point. The army CAN ban you because THEY tell you the rules. You are entering THEIR world. Now quit crying.
Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
1. Free speech isn't absolute. Proclaiming to be out and proud poses as a distraction for men risking their lives. Try again.
No more so than a soldier talking about his wife and kiddies. Funnily enough though, your allowed to do that. It being a distraction is only if some dipshit has a problem with gays. I guess we should ban blacks to, in case any racists get distracted.
2. Soldiers can talk but you're not going to hear any juicy secrets among the men, whether they are pedophiles, cross dressers, or gay.
Being gay isn't a juicy secret. Its just existing and being who you are. Is that illegal now?
3. You're being a typical liberal, foregoing any kind of logic for emotions to get your point across, which isn't really a point. The army CAN ban you because THEY tell you the rules. You are entering THEIR world. Now quit crying.
No, becuase we have laws against discrimination. Should we let them ban blacks becuase its THEIR world. No, becuase we are sane people.
Originally posted by NephthysLOL@equating racism with banning [b]OPENLY gay people. Yea, that's why we ban gay people, because someone has a problem with them. ROFL
No more so than a soldier talking about his wife and kiddies. Funnily enough though, your allowed to do that. It being a distraction is only if some dipshit has a problem with gays. I guess we should ban blacks to, in case any racists get distracted.
Being gay isn't a juicy secret. Its just existing and being who you are. Is that illegal now?
No, becuase we have laws against discrimination. Should we let them ban blacks becuase its THEIR world. No, becuase we are sane people. [/B]
Races don't cause distractions. Sexual preferences do.
LOL@equating racism with banning OPENLY gay people. Yea, that's why we ban gay people, because someone has a problem with them. ROFL
How does them being OPENLY (lyke OMG, OPENLY!!!!1!!!) gay mean jackshit exactly. And I seriously can't see how the **** it would be a distraction any other way. Maybe they'll want to paint everything pink, perhaps?
Illegal? Quit using your bullshit emotions to make extreme statements.
You're arguing semantics, answer the question.
Races don't cause distractions. Sexual preferences do.
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Are you being thick on purpose? And WHAT FVCKING DISTRACTIONS?!
Originally posted by Nephthys
How does them being OPENLY (lyke OMG, OPENLY!!!!1!!!) gay mean jackshit exactly. And I seriously can't see how the **** it would be a distraction any other way. Maybe they'll want to paint everything pink, perhaps?You're arguing semantics, answer the question.
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Are you being thick on purpose? And WHAT FVCKING DISTRACTIONS?!
Being openly gay is a distraction for the army. If someone tells me they're openly gay, I will question their testicular fortitude to go into battle. This is the way it is.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Then thats your problem. I don't see why they should be punished becuase you're a brainless bigot. And discrimination is illegal and unconstitutional. This is the way it is.
Ah yes, anyone who doesn't agree with homosexuals is a bigot. That's like saying anyone who doesn't agree with Obama is racist! You moronic liberals argue with emotion and no common sense. Discrimination is illegal just like free speech is absolute. You keep your shit to yourself and you can be a tranny for all anybody cares. Now quit crying and go back to intro to philosophy.
Ah yes, anyone who doesn't agree with homosexuals is a bigot. That's like saying anyone who doesn't agree with Obama is racist!
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Yeah.... thats totally the same thing. And FYI, not liking homosexuals....actually does make you a bigot. Its like, the definition of the word: 'A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, irrationality, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs or genetics'. Just so you know.
You moronic liberals argue with emotion and no common sense. Discrimination is illegal just like free speech is absolute.
I like how you deny being a bigot and then start a sentence with 'You moronic liberals'. As ever DS, you find new ways to shoot yourself in the foot.
You keep your shit to yourself and you can be a tranny for all anybody cares. Now quit crying and go back to intro to philosophy.
No. I shouldn't have to, you primeape. Thats the fvcking point.
Originally posted by Nephthys
[B]😬Yeah.... thats totally the same thing. And FYI, not liking homosexuals....actually does make you a bigot. Its like, the definition of the word: 'A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, irrationality, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs or genetics'. Just so you know.
I like how you deny being a bigot and then start a sentence with 'You moronic liberals'. As ever DS, you find new ways to shoot yourself in the foot.
Read the part where I said "doesn't agree with", then continue making with the strawman arguments.
Again, semantics. Your views on homosexuality has been noted in the past, thank you very much. Extensively.
Wtf does me calling you a moronic liberal have to do with being a bigot? Not all liberals are morons, but there are moronic liberals.
Now watch as I argue semantics! You said, 'you moronic liberals', not 'you are a moronic liberal'. Theres a difference. In one you're calling all liberals moronic, in the other, its just me. Maybe its you who can't keep up chum.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Again, semantics. Your views on homosexuality has been noted in the past, thank you very much. Extensively.
Now watch as [b]I argue semantics! You said, 'you moronic liberals', not 'you are a moronic liberal'. Theres a difference. In one you're calling all liberals moronic, in the other, its just me. Maybe its you who can't keep up chum. [/B]
No no, I'm good. You're the one who's unable to differentiate between semantics and completely different meanings.