The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

Started by Lord Lucien3,287 pages

Originally posted by REXXXX
I'm very proud of your abilities, Zampano. I always have been.
And yet you're not happy that I've finally identified a piece of music from Fallout: New Vegas as Vivaldi's Op. 3, Concerto No. 10 in B minor for four violins, cello and strings from L’Estro Armonico.

Cuz I'm f*cking thrilled.

Truely we live in a blessed age!

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Han Solo's one of the least intresting characters in the mythos to me, right below Luke and Leia on the scale of least interesting.

Who do you think are the most interesting characters from the movies then?

Vader, Palpatine, Lando, R2, and Obi-Wan. Obi-Wan's actually my favorite character in the mythos, sans maybe Mara Jade.

Suddenly, BUCKETS!

Haha, only Zam will understand this joke. Or care, probably.

I'm confused about the role of the second amendment in relation to the revolutions in the middle east. The resistance in Libya, for example, is "desperate for outside military assistance," according to BBC World News America. The director of the CIA (according to the same broadcast) has projected the current regime to survive, should such aid be withheld. Given how much more powerful the United States Military is than the Libyan military, does the posturing from second amendment advocates have any place in realistic discourse? If a popular revolt doesn't stand a chance against a two-bit third-world militia, would an American uprising do any better against the most powerful military force ever to exist?

^^^My (belated) response to an exchange I saw recently:

[username: Zell]
I wonder if Americans who voted for Barack Obama feel like suckers yet.

[username: Event Horizon]
yes

[username: frozenchicken]
Sarah Palin was the VP for the Republicans, yes?

So, your choices were Obama or armed revolution, yes? 😄


[username: Event Horizon]

Pretty much, and I don't own a weapon.


[username: Zell]
You're a terrible American. Don't you know that the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants?

[...]
[username: Dr. T]
The context of the quote makes it obvious to anyone with either an education or a working brain that, while the tree is allegoric, the blood is quite literal: What country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon & pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. It is it's natural manure. Interesting side note: This was written by Jefferson in reference to Shays' Rebellion. This armed uprising was sparked by tax increases and foreclosures caused by the need to pay outstanding debts owned to financial investors. It will be interesting to see if history does indeed go in circles.

The whole exchange passed without my participation, and I'd be much too frightened to post there (these people are terrifyingly brilliant anarcho-commie-lazzie faire capitalist transhumanists) (well, except for Event Horizon) so I just lurk. Thoughts?

Anyone who intellectually intimidates you scares the piss out of me.

I disagree that we need strife to maintain peace and equlibrium, as Dr. T advocates. Continual and prolonged peace may be unlikely and be an idealised dream, but it is something I feel worth persuing. We don't need to constantly remind our leaders that we can kick and scream like grumpy infants every now and then, just actually elect a decent leader for a change. Though, being anarcho-communists I doubt they would see much hope of that occuring.

Oh btw LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE the comic there.

i've thought about that: There can be no revolutions of the people against ANY country with ANY modern war equipment. Machine guns cannot compete against planes and tanks, period.

Libya's tanks and planes aren't really doing Ghaddifi any good.

how do you figure? he is pretty much winning his war with them.

Ghadaffi's winning?

sadly, yes. that is what started red talking about it.

I think he might be misinformed, if my understanding of the current situation is correct.

Every major push Gadafhi had made to reclaim lost cities has failed, more and more people are rebelling and his military infrastructure is crumbling. There is a reason he is hiring mercenaries to fight for him. He doesn't have very many supporters left to fly his planes and pilot and tanks.

4 hrs ago:

Top U.S. intelligence officials said Thursday they expect that Moammar Gadhafy will continue his bloody fight for survival and eventually crush the rebels and opposition groups that now hold almost half of Libya. But the White House sharply disputed that assessment, and is sending Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton to meet with the rebels on the Egyptian border next week. LINK

10 March 2011 Last updated at 21:46 ET :

Forces loyal to Libyan leader Col Muammar Gaddafi have made major gains against anti-government rebels, pushing them from two key areas.LINK

I'm only going by what I've heard this afternoon; today is the first time I've had my head out of the sand in months.

Am I the only one who wants Gaddafi to win?

Not really.

I'm fine with things the way they were; the hundred people living in abject poverty to ensure that I can continue to live better than King Louis XIV were quiet before all this revolution nonsense. And that's the way I like it.

so Lucien,to answer your question, no, both you and Ghadaffi, and probably his son are hoping for a win.

If (and when, hopefully) his mercenaries win back his country for him, I'm gonna be looking forward to the world's reaction. France has disowned him, Clinton's meeting with the Rebels, practically every country except Cuba and Hugo Chavezland have condemned him... so what will they do and say when he emerges victorious? Sanctions? Boycott his oil (ha)? Blockade? Invade?

The whole uprising's been really fun and exciting, I can't wait to see the next act.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=13266527#post13266527

So apparantly dadudemans a pedophile. Huh? Who knew.