Originally posted by Lucius
And what makes any particular sexual act "gay?" What is intrinsic about getting it in the ass that makes it gay? Because gay people do it? Well shit, lesbians eat each other out, is that gay as well?
Penetrating a man's ass makes the action gay. It's not gay because homosexuals do it. The term was created after the acts were already going on. When male body parts aren't made to be penetrated and yet they are, that makes it gay.
Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
Penetrating a man's ass makes the action gay. It's not gay because homosexuals do it. The term was created after the acts were already going on. When male body parts aren't made to be penetrated and yet they are, that makes it gay.
To quote Gideon, Nai, and just about everyone else in this subforum, "emphasis mine."
Those two statements are problematic. You are asserting that penetrating a man's ass is gay. Why? Because "male body parts aren't made to be penetrated."
To this I ask, who decided that? More importantly, in the realm of sex, with the incredibly vast array of fetishes, who and what criteria decides how any particular sexual action relates to one's sexual preference?
While I would like to have the ability to just make statements and have them be true, that isn't how the world works.
another aside though: This latest gaffe by Obama: "Israel must return to 1967 borders" turned me from a critical person who would have voted third party if a strong GOP candidate doesn't step up to someone who is willing to have ANYONE else as president. I hate Palin. hate hate hate her. But i will vote for her to try to get rid of someone who tries to dictate borders to one of our only actual allies in the ME.
Seriously f*** him. who the hell does he think he is?
Originally posted by truejedi
another aside though: This latest gaffe by Obama: "Israel must return to 1967 borders" turned me from a critical person who would have voted third party if a strong GOP candidate doesn't step up to someone who is willing to have ANYONE else as president. I hate Palin. hate hate hate her. But i will vote for her to try to get rid of someone who tries to dictate borders to one of our only actual allies in the ME.
Seriously f*** him. who the hell does he think he is?
Well you see, in Israel, there are these pricks called settlers who have, in violation of international law, settled in Palestinian territory. Obama, with the backing of the UN, EU, and Russia, wants to go back to the pre Six-Day war borders and use those as a starting point for potential land swaps. The rest of the world considers this to be a reasonable idea.
So seriously, f*** Bibi.
Originally posted by Lucius
Well you see, in Israel, there are these pricks called settlers who have, in violation of international law, settled in Palestinian territory. Obama, with the backing of the UN, EU, and Russia, wants to go back to the pre Six-Day war borders and use those as a starting point for potential land swaps. The rest of the world considers this to be a reasonable idea.So seriously, f*** Bibi.
I'm quoting TJ on this. You've lost your mind. Yes, lets give them Jerusalem! Lets credit them for being the aggressors. As usual Veneficus, you have everything ass backwards. And LOL@ the rest of the world, lol. I'm pretty sure the rest of the world views Obama as a coward.
Originally posted by truejedi
unbelievable. that's bullshit and you know it.
Yes, Israel's rejection of the plan, is indeed, bullshit. Of course, Israel's relations with the rest of the world have gone downhill for some time now, as the EU, UN, and just about everyone of importance besides good ol'Murrica have gotten sick and tired of Israel's bullshit.
Originally posted by Lucius
To quote Gideon, Nai, and just about everyone else in this subforum, "emphasis mine."Those two statements are problematic. You are asserting that penetrating a man's ass is gay. Why? Because "male body parts aren't made to be penetrated."
To this I ask, who decided that? More importantly, in the realm of sex, with the incredibly vast array of fetishes, who and what criteria decides how any particular sexual action relates to one's sexual preference?
While I would like to have the ability to just make statements and have them be true, that isn't how the world works.
Really? So you're going with the "who are you to" rationalization?
That usually means there's no argument because there's no way anybody can answer that. The act of homosexuality is defined a penetrating another man. And yes, men's body parts aren't meant to be penetrated while women's are, hence the whole natural argument against homosexuality. Sheesh, you've lost your mind today. Next you're going to tell me that homosexuality is as natural as heterosexuality.
Originally posted by Lucius
Yes, Israel's rejection of the plan, is indeed, bullshit. Of course, Israel's relations with the rest of the world have gone downhill for some time now, as the EU, UN, and just about everyone of importance besides good ol'Murrica have gotten sick and tired of Israel's bullshit.
This is incredibly misleading because everyone is tired of the Palestinian's bullshit even more and just want some kind of peace. And acceptance of the plan would be utterly insane and retarded.
I'm trying to find ANY evidence for Veneficus' assertion that Obama's decision was widely supported. The closest thing I found was the opposite. http://theaspiringsurvivalist.blogspot.com/2011/05/americans-do-not-support-obamas-choice.html
Granted, it's just a blog.
Lucious, why in the heck should Israel accept that? This is EXACTLY like Britain stepping in randomnly and telling the US that they need to return the spoils from the Mexican war to Mexico. (which includes, just most of the the South-Western united states...) how can you even pretend that is just?
And I'm just calling your bluff on the "widely supported" part of your assertion.
Originally posted by truejedi
Lucious, why in the heck should Israel accept that? This is EXACTLY like Britain stepping in randomnly and telling the US that they need to return the spoils from the Mexican war to Mexico. (which includes, just most of the the South-Western united states...) how can you even pretend that is just?And I'm just calling your bluff on the "widely supported" part of your assertation.
Every poll I've seen on the net has the majority of the world supporting Israel so I call bullshit on that one Veneficus. Try again.
Also TJ, you mean assertion.
Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
Really? So you're going with the "who are you to" rationalization?
That usually means there's no argument because there's no way anybody can answer that. The act of homosexuality is defined a penetrating another man. And yes, men's body parts aren't meant to be penetrated while women's are, hence the whole natural argument against homosexuality. Sheesh, you've lost your mind today. Next you're going to tell me that homosexuality is as natural as heterosexuality.
I was really hoping you would do this. I love the natural argument against homosexuality because it allows me ask you the following things:
How many children have you produced?
How many women have you fvcked?
How many other alpha males have you competed for pussy with?
How many animals have you slain to feed your tribe of hunter gatherers?
If we went with the "natural" argument, then we really should let natural selection dictate for us how we should act. Except some of us aren't f*cking retards (like you) and don't dictate our actions on how to best propagate our genes. Christ you are so goddamn retarded.
Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
This is incredibly misleading because everyone is tired of the Palestinian's bullshit even more and just want some kind of peace. And acceptance of the plan would be utterly insane and retarded.
You need to make an emergency saving through on your will checks to avoid continuing with this severe case of confirmation bias.
Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
I'm trying to find ANY evidence for Veneficus' assertion that Obama's decision was widely supported. The closest thing I found was the opposite. http://theaspiringsurvivalist.blogspot.com/2011/05/americans-do-not-support-obamas-choice.htmlGranted, it's just a blog.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/21/opinion/21iht-edcohen21.html?src=me&ref=general
http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/strenger-than-fiction/netanyahu-has-nothing-to-fear-but-hope-1.363066
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/paul-pillar/the-oblique-approach-middle-east-policy-5341
http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=221614
http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=221505
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13464585
Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
Every poll I've seen on the net has the majority of the world supporting Israel so I call bullshit on that one Veneficus. Try again.Also TJ, you mean assertion.
Originally posted by Lucius
[B]I was really hoping you would do this. I love the natural argument against homosexuality because it allows me ask you the following things:How many children have you produced?
How many women have you fvcked?
How many other alpha males have you competed for pussy with?
How many animals have you slain to feed your tribe of hunter gatherers?If we went with the "natural" argument, then we really should let natural selection dictate for us how we should act. Except some of us aren't f*cking retards (like you) and don't dictate our actions on how to best propagate our genes. Christ you are so goddamn retarded.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/21/opinion/21iht-edcohen21.html?src=me&ref=general
http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/strenger-than-fiction/netanyahu-has-nothing-to-fear-but-hope-1.363066
Edit: I just read the JPost link. I didn't know that the leaders of the Quartet constitute the majority of the world. But hey when you're biased, you can rationalize anything.
Edit x2: Also LOL@ participants from 27 countries. Majority ftw! Rofl. Also, the Palestinians aer less popular than the Israelis. What now?