X-men vs MGS

Started by pr19835 pages

Originally posted by Apolloknight
No its not actually, it really is 557 tons, Their is a site that has the status of every metal gear ever built, and rex weighs in at 557 tons.

Heck Your normal war tank weights about 70 tons, Rex is 3 times taller and slightly longer with thicker armor and more weapons.

Is this site official? Any chance of a link?

Originally posted by pr1983
Is this site official? Any chance of a link?

http://solidsnake19148.tripod.com/metal_gear_units.html

I can definately see Colossus doing this to grey fox

Originally posted by pr1983
Is this site official? Any chance of a link?

Cool site, and thx for the link, but... it doesnt strike me as being an official site, so unless it has a quote that i missed (and tell me if it does) from one of the designers or kojima himself, i'd be inclined to think that maybe 557 is a bit much... 😬

and doesnt it say rex is 505 tons?

Originally posted by pr1983
Cool site, and thx for the link, but... it doesnt strike me as being an official site, so unless it has a quote that i missed (and tell me if it does) from one of the designers or kojima himself, i'd be inclined to think that maybe 557 is a bit much... 😬

and doesnt it say rex is 505 tons?

Nah, it says 505,450kg which equtes to 557 tons, i didnt do the caculation myself, it was done in another Thread.

But you just have to think about it, Your normal war tank weighs around 70 tons fully equiped right? They stand at about 2.7 meters high. Rex on the other hand is 13 meters tall, and a little longer not to mention almost twice as wide as its 70 ton counterpart. Its armor is just the same and it has a rail gun mounted on its back, Rail Guns are so large and heavy they are desinged for Battleships and this tank has one on its back.

When I first saw it I was like "no way", but then when you think about it, it makes sense.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Nah, it says 505,450kg which equtes to 557 tons, i didnt do the caculation myself, it was done in another Thread.

But you just have to think about it, Your normal war tank weighs around 70 tons fully equiped right? They stand at about 2.7 meters high. Rex on the other hand is 13 meters tall, and a little longer not to mention almost twice as wide as its 70 ton counterpart. Its armor is just the same and it has a rail gun mounted on its back, Rail Guns are so large and heavy they are desinged for Battleships and this tank has one on its back.

When I first saw it I was like "no way", but then when you think about it, it makes sense.

I suppose its possible... but i'd have to wonder about the weight distribution too... i mean, if the thing was falling on him then ok, but who's to say how much force was being exerted? I'm not trying to devalue it in the slightest (i love the metal gear games, and to me the first one is one of the best games ever made), i'm just curious...

and then there's the fact that snake beat him in combat... snake, for all his talents is still just a man... 😬

Originally posted by pr1983
I suppose its possible... but i'd have to wonder about the weight distribution too... i mean, if the thing was falling on him then ok, but who's to say how much force was being exerted? I'm not trying to devalue it in the slightest (i love the metal gear games, and to me the first one is one of the best games ever made), i'm just curious...

and then there's the fact that snake beat him in combat... snake, for all his talents is still just a man... 😬

I agree w/ the first question, he was just trying to smash him with his foot, but regardless im sure alot of force was still being applid

and to the second question,
If Grey fox truely does harbor this massive strength, the reason he probably didnt just punch snakes head off is because he respects snake, and he wanted to have a good fight. if you recall he was very "aroused" lol by the fact that snake was giving him a great fight

Originally posted by pr1983
I suppose its possible... but i'd have to wonder about the weight distribution too... i mean, if the thing was falling on him then ok, but who's to say how much force was being exerted? I'm not trying to devalue it in the slightest (i love the metal gear games, and to me the first one is one of the best games ever made), i'm just curious...

and then there's the fact that snake beat him in combat... snake, for all his talents is still just a man... 😬

Well snake really isn't just a man, he is more peak to enhanced human, (genes from Big Boss). Its kinda hard to judge where snake is at, he hangs with those Superhuman guys from Cobra and Foxhound, so he possibly could be slightly superhuman (cap/blade level). We are never going to know because its not his style to go around tossing Oil Drums and and steel beams at people. Again I could be wrong on this but we'll probably never know.

Also, the fact that Grey Fox did lift Rex off him doesn't mean he has Crazy durability to match, which he is no where near Colossus level when it comes to this aspect.

Edit: Well now that I think about it, he didnt get crushed under Rex's weight, meh......

Originally posted by Apolloknight

Also, the fact that Grey Fox did lift Rex off him doesn't mean he has Crazy durability to match, which he is no where near Colossus level when it comes to this aspect.

Agreed, and ide put snake around Cap level, thats a fair assessment

Originally posted by Apolloknight
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Grey fox is class 100+ easily. He lifted Metal Gear Rex's leg which was pressing down on him, know how much Metal Gear Rex Weighs, 557 tons. yes, 557 tons.

Snake Defeated Fox, But it could be said that fox wasn't going all out (which he didn't seem like it also). Fox is fast enough to Dodge Bullets, not to mention he doesn't have to because he just blocks them with his sword (machine gun fire from multiple targets).

It seems that Rex's weight has fluxuated as much as Jean has died.

I remember when this thread first started, Rex weighed somewhere around 10-20 tons. And now he's up to 557 tons. Interesting.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
It seems that Rex's weight has fluxuated as much as Jean has died.

I remember when this thread first started, Rex weighed somewhere around 10-20 tons. And now he's up to 557 tons. Interesting.

It seems people were just guessing on its weight, without even knowing how much a tank really weighs. I feel kinda stupid also, as much as I love heavy machinery and tanks, that I didn't think it weighed more than 20 tons.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
It seems people were just guessing on its weight, without even knowing how much a tank really weighs. I feel kinda stupid also, as much as I love heavy machinery and tanks, that I didn't think it weighed more than 20 tons.

I still honestly don't think it weighs anywhere near 557 tons. If anything, it's about 40 tons at the most. 557 tons is literally ludicrous. Literally.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I still honestly don't think it weighs anywhere near 557 tons. If anything, it's about 40 tons at the most. 557 tons is literally ludicrous. Literally.
Seeing as oil tankers weigh about that much I'd say it's a gross exageration.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I still honestly don't think it weighs anywhere near 557 tons. If anything, it's about 40 tons at the most. 557 tons is literally ludicrous. Literally.

Sigh, Metalmanx we agree on alot of things but this time my friend your wrong, That tank weights 557tons, why is it so Ludicrous to believe, Ill prove it to you.

Did you know the worlds largest front end loader, the L-1850 , weighs in at 231,000kg, or 225 tons. Its bucket alone can pick up around 40 tons of coal in one load. Now this beast is 12 meters tall, and has no where near the same armor density as metal gear rex. not to mention the weapons, engine size, or ammo on board.

Your modern war tanks weigh in at about 70 tons fully loaded. now these tanks are only 2.7 meters in height. Rex is 13 meters tall and made of the same dense depleted uranium armor of most modern war tanks,

Originally posted by superbatman86
Seeing as oil tankers weigh about that much I'd say it's a gross exageration.

Man I love it when people talk about stuff they know nothing about, do you know a freaking oil tanker weights around 30,000 tons, yes 30,000 tons. Its freaking engine can weight 2300 tons alone.

http://people.bath.ac.uk/ccsshb/12cyl/

Did you also know a fully loaded aircraft carrier weight displaces 97,000 tons of water fully loaded, the steel used to build the ship weights in at over 60,000 tons alone.

http://www.howstuffworks.com/aircraft-carrier.htm

Its not that hard to believe that Rex weights 557 tons, it is, after all a nuclear, amphibious tank designed to reaplace the worlds current tanks.

No, it's still hard to believe. 557 tons is a lot. That's really all I can say about it. It's a hell of a lot. I understand the sizes and dimensions and other examples you gave me. But 557 tons is ridiculous.

Still Fox is clearly class 100+ and has speed and agility comparable to Spider-man's and sword that cuts metal with ease. This all combined is enough to put him against Colossus. And humans in mgs are clearly not ordinary, even Olga that is not a match for Snake can delflect bullets with sword. Snake dodges bullets and h2h defeated Grey Fox, and Fox wasn't going easy on him, it's not true. He many times tried to cut his head of. Besides Snake has superhuman durability seeing how he takes all explosions in the cutscenes and kicks from Fox. So MGS has good chances of winning this.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Sigh, Metalmanx we agree on alot of things but this time my friend your wrong, That tank weights 557tons, why is it so Ludicrous to believe, Ill prove it to you.

Did you know the worlds largest front end loader, the L-1850 , weighs in at 231,000kg, or 225 tons. Its bucket alone can pick up around 40 tons of coal in one load. Now this beast is 12 meters tall, and has no where near the same armor density as metal gear rex. not to mention the weapons, engine size, or ammo on board.

Your modern war tanks weigh in at about 70 tons fully loaded. now these tanks are only 2.7 meters in height. Rex is 13 meters tall and made of the same dense depleted uranium armor of most modern war tanks,

Man I love it when people talk about stuff they know nothing about, do you know a freaking oil tanker weights around 30,000 tons, yes 30,000 tons. Its freaking engine can weight 2300 tons alone.

http://people.bath.ac.uk/ccsshb/12cyl/

Did you also know a fully loaded aircraft carrier weight displaces 97,000 tons of water fully loaded, the steel used to build the ship weights in at over 60,000 tons alone.

http://www.howstuffworks.com/aircraft-carrier.htm

Its not that hard to believe that Rex weights 557 tons, it is, after all a nuclear, amphibious tank designed to reaplace the worlds current tanks.

TT Jahre Viking the largest oil tanker in the world weighs in at 564,763 tonnes.

Originally posted by Sam Z
Still Fox is clearly class 100+ and has speed and agility comparable to Spider-man's and sword that cuts metal with ease. This all combined is enough to put him against Colossus. And humans in mgs are clearly not ordinary, even Olga that is not a match for Snake can delflect bullets with sword. Snake dodges bullets and h2h defeated Grey Fox, and Fox wasn't going easy on him, it's not true. He many times tried to cut his head of. Besides Snake has superhuman durability seeing how he takes all explosions in the cutscenes and kicks from Fox. So MGS has good chances of winning this.

i mustly agree with your pust

With prep, the could take down colossus, but they dont, so they would be completely blindsided -- and killed, by his sheer strength. Colossus'es durability is astonishing.

i apologize for the pun. lol