Superman vs. Dracula

Originally posted by He-guy88
so ur saying that if u say that u can say when somethings pis and say that it only happened because it suited the comics purpose but when i say that it only suited the comics purpose its wrong wats up with that wat makes u so much bett then i to be able to say that

Dude, I never said that my word is better than yours or anything. I'm talking about the pic you posted and I have posted before why that wouldn't happen if they fough straight up. If you wouldn't have ignored what I posted before, than you would've realized why that was a bunch of bullsh*t. Your only arguement is that it happened, so therefore it's okay in this fight. I have explained myself while you haven't and you've only been holding on to a piece of evidence that doesn't mean anything. I have explained to you why exactly that wouldn't happen, I have also explained everything else. If you would like to know the reason as to why I think that the pic is bullsh*t, go back some posts to find it, otherwise arguing with you is f*ckin pointless and hopeless. Other than saying it happened, so therefore it would happen again, would you mind explaining to me how exactly would Crucifer get in close enough to Superman in order to bite him????

Originally posted by batdude123
Dude, I never said that my word is better than yours or anything. I'm talking about the pic you posted and I have posted before why that wouldn't happen if they fough straight up. If you wouldn't have ignored what I posted before, than you would've realized why that was a bunch of bullsh*t. Your only arguement is that it happened, so therefore it's okay in this fight. I have explained myself while you haven't and you've only been holding on to a piece of evidence that doesn't mean anything. I have explained to you why exactly that wouldn't happen, I have also explained everything else. If you would like to know the reason as to why I think that the pic is bullsh*t, go back some posts to find it, otherwise arguing with you is f*ckin pointless and hopeless. Other than saying it happened, so therefore it would happen again, would you mind explaining to me how exactly would Crucifer get in close enough to Superman in order to bite him????

sure would he zapped him with his black magic and then went over and bit him thats wat iv been tryin to tell u but u wont listan

By the way, why can't you just admit that Superman would win against Crucifer??? I realize you hate Superman, but DAMN!!!!!!! There's no shame in saying it.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Maybe he is. That would explain him not dying from a bite.

It only makes sense that Supermans blood would have atleast some uv ratiation in it.

But I am willing to lower my wins for Superman from 10/10 to 8/10.

which of course is why you'v always been one of the best dudes to debate with AND against on the forum. 😉

incidentally -- anyone read the drac v apocalypse mini? it was actually quite good. a tiny bite and drac had power enough over apoc to command him to kneel before him -- and apoc did! he was completely f'd except that van helsing came to his rescue and saved his immortal a$$. i actually really enjoyed the series. 🙂

SORRY BATS BUT YEAH THERE IS 😉

Originally posted by leonidas
which of course is why you'v always been one of the best dudes to debate with AND against on the forum. 😉

incidentally -- anyone read the drac v apocalypse mini? it was actually quite good. a tiny bite and drac had power enough over apoc to command him to kneel before him -- and apoc did! he was completely f'd except that van helsing came to his rescue and saved his immortal a$$. i actually really enjoyed the series. 🙂

Originally posted by batdude123
By the way, why can't you just admit that Superman would win against Crucifer??? I realize you hate Superman, but DAMN!!!!!!! There's no shame in saying it.

im not being bias if i realy thought i was wrong then id admit it

Originally posted by hulk=strength
SORRY BATS BUT YEAH THERE IS 😉

Okay, first of all we are off the topic of Superman vs. Dracula, and second of all, leonidas himself even admitted that Superman would defeat Dracula because of the major speed difference. 😉

Originally posted by batdude123
Okay, first of all we are off the topic of Superman vs. Dracula, and second of all, leonidas himself even admitted that Superman would defeat Dracula because of the major speed difference. 😉

iv even said i would admit to that but not to him beating cucifer

Originally posted by He-guy88
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sure would he zapped him with his black magic and then went over and bit him thats wat iv been tryin to tell u but u wont listan

Actually, I've covered that in MANY posts that I've had. You just ignore them and refuse to read it. Read my posts, you will actually find that I have covered that. 😉 So actually, it's you who are the one who hasn't listened.

Originally posted by batdude123
Actually, I've covered that in MANY posts that I've had. You just ignore them and refuse to read it. Read my posts, you will actually find that I have covered that. 😉 So actually, it's you who are the one who hasn't listened.

iv read them but wat u said dident happen that way so u were wrong in that case

Originally posted by batdude123
It seemed to me that Superman was standing still, and not moving while Crucifer bit him. How is he going to cast a spell quickly enough to cope with Superman's mind and light-speed quickness? Before Crucifer could open his mouth, he would be punched to the sun. Besides you can't use TV shows as proof because this is a COMIC BOOK vs. forum. Why exactly couldn't Superman use his T-Vo on Crucifer? Besides, I've got a comic where Superman and Batman take down Green Lantern, Black Lightning, Starfire, Katana, Power Girl, Captain Atom, and Major Force. Does that mean that it should happen on a normal basis? No way. You are just gonna have to realize and accept the fact that there are some things in comics that should've just not happened. The faster you realize this, the quicker any of this can make sense to you. While you are holding on to the one shred of evidence you have, it doesn't mean much to a blood-lusted Superman or a Superman going all out. NO vampire could ever harness the power to ever tap into the vastness of Superman's power. It wouldn't happen. Superman is easily quicker than anything Crucifer could throw at him. Whether it is biting him (would not happen because of Superman's ability to fly, vibrate intangible or invisible, his speed, and his super senses) or mummbling a phrase to put Superman under his black magic powers. This is the main reason why Superman is such a killer when it comes to guys even in the realm of his power possibility. His speed is usually the deciding factor in fights against him. Yes, Crucifer is nothing that Superman hasn't handled in the past before. I mean he's taken down a planet ruler and master commander of an army before, as well as an interstellar conqueror. I'm sorry but there is nothing in Crucifer's power set that suggests he can take down Superman. Plus, how could he control what he couldn't see? Superman has the power to vibrate his molecules to become invisible. A Superman using ALL of his powers to his fullest extent would take down ANY vampire including Crucifer, and frankly I'm getting tired of this subject. Especially when it's so obvious to everybody else but you. This is really testing my patience as well as making me tired. If you believe that Crucifer could possibly beat Superman, well then that's your problem. Superman wins against Crucifer AT LEAST 8-9/10.

Here He-guy88. Read this, I covered what you were talking about in here. I feel that you have ignored this post all together so just read it!

Originally posted by He-guy88
iv read them but wat u said dident happen that way so u were wrong in that case

Okay, I realize that you are having trouble wrapping your brain around the simple concept that stupid sh*t sometimes happens in comics.

Should Wolverine have defeated Thanos?? Hell no.
Should Wolverine have defeated Lobo?? No.
Should Storm have defeated Wonder Woman?? Hell no.
Should Spider-man have defeated Firelord?? HELL no.

See what I mean? Why can't you just admit that you were wrong? The sooner you can admit that, the sooner we can let this STUPID thread die.

Originally posted by batdude123
Here He-guy88. Read this, I covered what you were talking about in here. I feel that you have ignored this post all together so just read it!

i read that and this is the hole thing in a nut shell sups was on the ground and so was curcifer now by wat ur saying sups could move faster then he could do the spell but that did not happen while sups was their c zapped him it showed his skeleton and everything he then in the next panel was right besides sups and bit him then from their it was wat u sall (it also showed atom fighting demons batman getting shot at and gl was watching sups get zaped and bit but wat do u excepet from john)

Originally posted by batdude123
Okay, I realize that you are having trouble wrapping your brain around the simple concept that stupid sh*t sometimes happens in comics.

Should Wolverine have defeated Thanos?? Hell no.
Should Wolverine have defeated Lobo?? No.
Should Storm have defeated Wonder Woman?? Hell no.
Should Spider-man have defeated Firelord?? HELL no.

See what I mean? Why can't you just admit that you were wrong? The sooner you can admit that, the sooner we can let this STUPID thread die.

i agree it does but it happens so when it does then i go by wats in the comics not wat i think

Originally posted by He-guy88
i read that and this is the hole thing in a nut shell sups was on the ground and so was curcifer now by wat ur saying sups could move faster then he could do the spell but that did not happen while sups was their c zapped him it showed his skeleton and everything he then in the next panel was right besides sups and bit him then from their it was wat u sall (it also showed atom fighting demons batman getting shot at and gl was watching sups get zaped and bit but wat do u excepet from john)

I realize all that, but do you realize exactly how much Superman holds back? He almost never utilizes his abilities to his fullest extent. The writer felt that the situation called for a jobbing Superman which is okay for the story, but not okay in these forums. You also have to realize that Superman is stronger, faster, more durable, has laser vision, ice breath, can fly, has the ability to vibrate his molecules intangible and invisible, has super senses, and even a telepathic attack (T-Vo). If Superman utilizes all of these powers to the fullest degree, then Crucifer wouldn't be able to bite him. Plain and simple. It's his speed that puts him over the edge. Anyways, I really don't care who you think would win anymore. Just let this thread DIE! By the way, just so you know Superman has flown out of a double black hole before and held a black hole in the palm of his hand before, so Crucifer wouldn't be a problem to Superman going full out.

i was talkin about theres shame in admittin supes would win 😮 espicially if your a hulk fan

Originally posted by hulk=strength
i was talkin about theres shame in admittin supes would win 😮 espicially if your a hulk fan

Oh. 😆 I thought that you were referring to leonidas's post. 😱

Originally posted by batdude123
I realize all that, but do you realize exactly how much Superman holds back? He almost never utilizes his abilities to his fullest extent. The writer felt that the situation called for a jobbing Superman which is okay for the story, but not okay in these forums. You also have to realize that Superman is stronger, faster, more durable, has laser vision, ice breath, can fly, has the ability to vibrate his molecules intangible and invisible, has super senses, and even a telepathic attack (T-Vo). If Superman utilizes all of these powers to the fullest degree, then Crucifer wouldn't be able to bite him. Plain and simple. It's his speed that puts him over the edge. Anyways, I really don't care who you think would win anymore. Just let this thread DIE! By the way, just so you know Superman has flown out of a double black hole before and held a black hole in the palm of his hand before, so Crucifer wouldn't be a problem to Superman going full out.

laser vision dont hurt him read one of my preveais treads and ill agree to disagree iv never ment to offend u if i did and as for the rest its i would have agreed with u about the sups beating him but i saw the facts in the comics so i have to agree with the comics over peoples even my own thoughts it may be the only argument but its their and even if its stupid thats wats their is not r's or anyboadys elses ideas and if he fights c agin and beats him then ill agree but till then its jut agreeing to disagree 😎 😄 🙂

Originally posted by He-guy88
laser vision dont hurt him read one of my preveais treads and ill agree to disagree iv never ment to offend u if i did and as for the rest its i would have agreed with u about the sups beating him but i saw the facts in the comics so i have to agree with the comics over peoples even my own thoughts it may be the only argument but its their and even if its stupid thats wats their is not r's or anyboadys elses ideas and if he fights c agin and beats him then ill agree but till then its jut agreeing to disagree 😎 😄 🙂

Fine, but like I have said, you have to read between the lines. Superman going full-out would murder Crucifer straight up. The Superman that faced Crucifer was the weakest form of him. These kinds of fights simply rely on the writer. If this is Superman written to the fullest degree (which it is according to KMC rules), then he would have no problem with Crucifer. Using that scan as evidence is actually thrown out and not really usable considering the writer wrote him like poop, and the Superman I am referring to in this thread is a non-holding back out for blood Superman. There is NOTHING in Crucifer's power set that suggests he could defeat Superman going full-out. That's all I have to say about this subject because quite frankly, I'm getting tired of it.