Silver Samurai vs. Grey Fox

Originally posted by Sam Z
He hadn't any other chance to show it and the only time he did he was like this so we should assume THIS is the way he is.

So...in the fight against any other bosses...he simply did not want to show this powerlevel because...?

This is the only time he DID something like this, you are right there. Since it's the only time out of all the fights Snake had...

Originally posted by Sam Z
It looked very convincing. Fox jumped and kicked him, the kick was more coming from up to down and Snake blocked it so he didn't flew away but slided across the room. How many times Hulk punched Wolverine, Logan nenver flew far away.

Yeah, but REALISTICALLY, that kick would have sent him fly a lot farther if it truly was full power. Thats why we can't quantify it from the flight...so we have no way of knowing if he was kicking him with full power or not. Snake wasn't hurt really, so I doubt that he was.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
So...in the fight against any other bosses...he simply did not want to show this powerlevel because...?

This is the only time he DID something like this, you are right there. Since it's the only time out of all the fights Snake had...

Because that was the only h2h fight in the game (another one with Liquid but there were no way to judge how strong one comparing to another since they were just equel) so in the only fight he had he was like that so it means this is the way he fights.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Yeah, but REALISTICALLY, that kick would have sent him fly a lot farther if it truly was full power. Thats why we can't quantify it from the flight...so we have no way of knowing if he was kicking him with full power or not. Snake wasn't hurt really, so I doubt that he was. [/B]

That was realistically, it send him sliding like 30 feet away and only because Snake blocked it and because Fox kicked from up to down so Snake was partly pushed to the ground. Snake wasn't hurt because of his durability and there was NO logical explanation why should Fox fight not at full strength.

Originally posted by Sam Z
Because that was the only h2h fight in the game (another one with Liquid but there were no way to judge how strong one comparing to another since they were just equel) so in the only fight he had he was like that so it means this is the way he fights.

So he is Fox level in strength? Speed? Durability? Because he never shows any of these traits in other points of the game. Majority of the time he is like a highly trained soldier with mild superhuman powers. He never really shows even Class 1 strength outside that fight.

Originally posted by Sam Z
That was realistically, it send him sliding like 30 feet away and only because Snake blocked it and because Fox kicked from up to down so Snake was partly pushed to the ground. Snake wasn't hurt because of his durability and there was NO logical explanation why should Fox fight not at full strength.

Realistically a kick from Class 100 would sent you through a wall or splatter you to it. Snake still isn't bulletproof for what I know, so realistically he can't take a full punch/kick from a Class 100...

It wasn't realistic/he wasn't fighting Snake with full power.

So let me get this straight... Snake now is able to fight people who have easily stop bullets and hold up Metal Gear? Also, since Fox wanted a final fight with Snake, I highly doubt that he would have gone in using a huge advantage.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
So he is Fox level in strength? Speed? Durability? Because he never shows any of these traits in other points of the game. Majority of the time he is like a highly trained soldier with mild superhuman powers. He never really shows even Class 1 strength outside that fight.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Realistically a kick from Class 100 would sent you through a wall or splatter you to it. Snake still isn't bulletproof for what I know, so realistically he can't take a full punch/kick from a Class 100...

It wasn't realistic/he wasn't fighting Snake with full power. [/B]

Originally posted by The Fake Macoy
So let me get this straight... Snake now is able to fight people who have easily stop bullets and hold up Metal Gear? Also, since Fox wanted a final fight with Snake, I highly doubt that he would have gone in using a huge advantage.

From what we seen he can fight. Man even raiden stops the bullets.

I was under the impression Fox was holding back against snake, it was pretty obvious to me that he wanted snake to kill him. Not takin anything away from Snake, he still kicks punishers ass to pieces.

Originally posted by TheBadguy
I was under the impression Fox was holding back against snake, it was pretty obvious to me that he wanted snake to kill him.

So that's why he tried to cut Snake's head off for a couple of times?

Originally posted by TheBadguy
Not takin anything away from Snake, he still kicks punishers ass to pieces. [/B]

Tis true.

Solid Snake would get wrecked by any class 100 lifter punching him at full strength, I remeber while playing snake would die rather easily from a few gunshots. he's not that great when compared to TRUE comic book superheroes, and him beating Grey Fox was PIS and I don't care if he was "kicking from up to down "ANY kick from a class 100 lifter directed at snake would have sent him through five walls of concrete and he would be DEAD even with his puny little arms "blocking" it. You are just not thinking clearly, Snake isn't invunerable, he doesn't have superhuman strength, He's fast enough to take out those guys because he is peak human performance and was trained alot better than them. They implanted no "x-gene" into him to make him superhuman , he's just a clone of another peak human who was just as mortal as he is.

Originally posted by Tank_6603
Solid Snake would get wrecked by any class 100 lifter punching him at full strength, I remeber while playing snake would die rather easily from a few gunshots. he's not that great when compared to TRUE comic book superheroes, and him beating Grey Fox was PIS and I don't care if he was "kicking from up to down "ANY kick from a class 100 lifter directed at snake would have sent him through five walls of concrete and he would be DEAD even with his puny little arms "blocking" it. You are just not thinking clearly, Snake isn't invunerable, he doesn't have superhuman strength, He's fast enough to take out those guys because he is peak human performance and was trained alot better than them. They implanted no "x-gene" into him to make him superhuman , he's just a clone of another peak human who was just as mortal as he is.

This all is based on assumptions, you judge of how Snake durable is by the gameplay what is wrong, coz during the gameplay Snake can be shot 5 times in the head and he survives. You can't explain why is it PIS. The first time we see Snake on the screen he takes Fox's punches so you can't judge if this is PIS or not because that is how he was when he was created. Konami made him that durable and strong. And how can you say he doesn't have super strength or speed? You really think x-gene is the only way to be superhuman? This is not marvel universe he is just not ordinary human. He dodge bullets fights class 100 guys and beats dozens of soldier without trouble he is NOT just pick human. Try to realise it.

Grammar crits Sam Z for 1500 hp
Sam Z dies

Solid snake shouldn't even be on these forums imo.

Originally posted by Tank_6603
Grammar crits Sam Z for 1500 hp
Sam Z dies

Solid snake shouldn't even be on these forums imo.

Try to explain your opinion instead of laughing at my grammar. 😛
And there are MGS comicbooks.

Wasn't mantis messing with fox's head in that fight and fox didnt us ehis sword ?

There are also Sooby Doo comics. This doesn't mean that Scooby Doo is a comic book character. Solid Snake is not a comic book hero in my eyes. GTFO

Originally posted by Tank_6603
There are also Sooby Doo comics. This doesn't mean that Scooby Doo is a comic book character. Solid Snake is not a comic book hero in my eyes. GTFO

So he shouldn't be on this forum because Mr. Tank does not like him?... 🙄

He shouldn't be on this forum because he's not a COMIC BOOK CHARACTER. and btw I love MGS It's the only reason i'm going to buy a ps3. You assume to much, I just feel that Solid Snake goes against the rules of the forum. I've had a thread closed for mentioning jedi's even tho there have been and probably still are star wars comics. Solid Snake does not reach us thru comics he's a videogame character.

Originally posted by Tank_6603
He shouldn't be on this forum because he's not a COMIC BOOK CHARACTER. and btw I love MGS It's the only reason i'm going to buy a ps3. You assume to much, I just feel that Solid Snake goes against the rules of the forum. I've had a thread closed for mentioning jedi's even tho there have been and probably still are star wars comics. Solid Snake does not reach us thru comics he's a videogame character.

cry more, I'm not breaking any rules. I really think Scooby stands a chance

Originally posted by Tank_6603
cry more, I'm not breaking any rules. I really think Scooby stands a chance

You do understand what happened to the last guy who made lots of threads to make a point? Yahman? well..you can find out for yourself...