Originally posted by riceroost
DUDE What movie were you watching? Wolverine was getting rushed by a wave of mutants. That's what you were supposed to take from the movie. We aren't supposed to know what most of those mutants powers were because Wolverine just kills them before they can use their powers. I repeat: you dont get to make the distinction that they were weak, since we never saw their powers. Everyone is weak against getting stabbed by adamantium claws. Even Phoenix. Even 1 moderately powered mutant would be big trouble for Batman.
So they were just basically humans running at Wolverine (since they weren't using their powers at that point)
Originally posted by riceroost
Batman is a very gifted man, but it is impossible for a man to learn 127 matial arts styles.
Oh , just like it's 'Impossible' for Wolverine to have claws within his wrists without cutting his own arteries.
[QUOTE=6597285]Originally posted by riceroost
DUDE What movie were you watching? Wolverine was getting rushed by a wave of mutants.
Dude, if they had any useful powers, they would've used them.
And Wolverine took that guy out with a kick to the balls, not the shins.
Batman is a very gifted man, but it is impossible for a man to learn 127 matial arts styles. It takes years to master even a single style. Even the greatest martial artists, the best hand to hand fighters on the planet take years to master a single style. No one could master that many styles. It's unrealistic, even by comic book standards. And considering Batman's training trips weren't completely devoted to fighting it's even more unrealistic that he knows that many styles. Pre-Crisis Batman was a better character. He could defeat almost anyone on an even playing field, but if Richard Dragon came along Batman could not beat him. Why? Batman focuses on fighting and 5 or 6 other skills like escape artistry, and detective skills. Richard Dragon devotes almost all his time to 1 thing, fighting, therefor Batman couldn't beat him. Again Batman had a very hard time against opponents that were much larger than him. Even the greatest fighters in the world have to fight in a certain weight class, because they can't contend for long against people who are larger than them.
It's not impossible. You can't accept the fact that you can't identify with Batman, because he's not supposed to be just a "man." He's a genius with eidetic memory and polyphasic sleep. Some people can actually excel at whatever they work at, and Batman is one of those people. It's much more probable than ANYTHING ELSE that comes out of comics. It's conceivable, that Batman is just much more intelligent than all of us.
You act as if Batman is going to beat Wolverine from the air.
Yep.
Batman is also not going to be able to see where Wolverine is the whole time he's gliding around. This gives Wolverine the opportunity to use stealth. Considering Wolverine's enhanced senses Batman is at a huge advantage if that happens.
lol no stealth, the Batman in the movie has infrared vision. He'll glide around, making sure where Logan is, and dropp bombs.
Gliding does not a victory make. You can't use a glider to win a fight. You can use it to survive a fall, but once Wolverine rips the cape to shreds he aint gliding on anything.
lol, he's not going to get to the cape. Comon, he'd have to jump like 30 or more feet.
Juggeraut and Phoenix are far more deadly than any missile. Honestly.
Sure, in the long run maybe. But if a bullet can knock Wolverine out, than a missile will surely knock him out.
How do you know "fugly" is a GAY word? Are you gay? That remark comes across as being very discriminatory. Fugly simply means that the car is worse than ugly. Watch what you say.
lol, I like how you sarcastically said, "Are you gay?" and at the same time said its very discriminatory. Contradictory, no?
The car may survive jumps, but it will not stand up to CLAWS THAT CUT THROUGH ANYTHING. The car is not made out of Promethium.
Claws won't be touching anything, once Wolverine is hit with missiles and plowed over like in X1.
And you obviously dont know what you're talking about here. The car crash in X1 did not knock out Wolverine. He got right back up and went back to check on Rogue.
Yeah, after like 30 seconds. By that time, he'll be mowed down repeatedly courtesy of the batmobile. He'll never get back up.
You dont know if Wolverine can pilot the jet or not so you dont get to make that distinction. He can drive a motorcycle that travels at superspeed, why not a jet? Hell, Rogue flew the jet in X2 and she's a student with absolutely no training.
lol, he obviously can't, or else he would've. He's the leader in X3 and he still didn't pilot.
Once again, you don't know if the jet has any weapons. The only time they would have needed weapons Storm and Jean did what no weapon could do anyway.
Really? Why didn't they stop those jets with any of their weapons then? They don't have any!
Why use the jet's weapons when you a tornado making person flying the jet? Considering it's a top of the line stealth jet it's safe to assume it has armaments.
Wolverine: "Doesn't this thing have any weapons?"
Obviously not, or else Storm wouldn't have had to do that.
Wolverine could just land on the car.
lol, you try jumping on a car while its speeding at you.
Once again, Wolverine never got knocked out by a car wreck. Check the movie.
He was knocked out for 20 or 30 seconds.
He got KOed by a man with Super Strength using a tree like a friggin baseball bat.
Like that's so much better than the preceding knockout.
Magneto sent Wolverine hurtling through a forest at a very high speed USING THE EARTH'S MAGNETIC FIELD.
....How does this prove anything?
Nothing Batman has can compare to Magneto's power.
I guess you just can't compete with a good hurling to the tree.
Batman does all his hand to hand fighting on the ground. He's not going to glide around in a fight. And Wolverine is going to kill Batman with ione hit. The body armor isn't stopping adamantium claws.
Level one mutants are probably just as big a threat as Batman in a hand to hand fight.
lol, they just lunged at him like idiots. That was it.
Psh. All Wolverine has to do is hit Batman once.
It'll be awhile before he even gets the chance.
, manage to hit Wolverine with it, then wait for his car to get there, then hope to god Wolverine hasn't gotten back up, then somehow use the car to run over a man with unbreakable bones. Wow, much easier for Batman to win than Wolverine.
Don't worry, Wolverine won't even get the chance to get back up from the first ramming.
Wolverine is not going to get knocked out by anything Batman carries on him.
HAH. So the tree humping man is invincible, eh?
Batman doesn't use the Tumbler in hand to hand fights - stop talking about it.
It was initially a joke, but it's obvious Logan will lose if the Tumbler comes.
Sonics may hurt Wolverine, but considering Siren's scream couldn't KO him in X2
The little girl wasn't using ultrasonic.
sonics wont safe Batman here, especialy since Wolverine's healing factor seems to have gotten a big boost in X3.
lol.
Stop using the Tumbler and the gliding in your argument.
Better than: Wolverine is going to jump 40 feet to reach Batman and cut off his memory cloth all the while jumping in front of a speeding 200 MPH car like a "fugly" idiot.
Originally posted by MrHeavySilenceLot's of mutant powers involve the fighter rushing an opponent to get close. What is the most common super power? Super Strength. The only way it's effective is if you engage in hand to hand, which involves rushing at someone. You will also notice that the X-Men were guarding the building, so the brotherhood had to RUSH them to get to the building. Obviously.
Dude, if they had any useful powers, they would've used them.
Originally posted by MrHeavySilenceThat is the jist of Batman. He's just a man. Which is why his brain is supposed to be more important than anything he can do physically. Batman is at the weakest facet of his game when he engages in hand to hand. His planning, detective skills, and science expertise are where he's scary. Learning 127 martial arts styles in 10 years is one of the most impossible things I've ever read in comics because it's based on something we can do in real life. In 10 years a great Martial artist could master a couple styles, but not 127. No self respecting master would consider passing any student, even the greatest fighter in the world after only a few lessons. Each style simply has too many techniques and philosophies to learn, practice, master, and apply.
It's not impossible. You can't accept the fact that you can't identify with Batman, because he's not supposed to be just a "man." He's a genius with eidetic memory and polyphasic sleep. Some people can actually excel at whatever they work at, and Batman is one of those people. It's much more probable than ANYTHING ELSE that comes out of comics. It's conceivable, that Batman is just much more intelligent than all of us.
Originally posted by MrHeavySilenceBecause Batman carries bombs around. Right. I'd like to know how Batman glides away from the ground level. Good luck with that one.
lol no stealth, the Batman in the movie has infrared vision. He'll glide around, making sure where Logan is, and dropp bombs.
Originally posted by MrHeavySilenceSince this fight starts on the ground with the 2 fighters 10 feet away, yeah Batman is going to get hit.
lol, he's not going to get to the cape. Comon, he'd have to jump like 30 or more feet.
Originally posted by MrHeavySilenceI asked if you were gay because you claimed that fugly was a "gay" word. Only homosexuals would know what truly is considered "gay". I was pointing out that your statement was ignorant. And it was.
lol, I like how you sarcastically said, "Are you gay?" and at the same time said its very discriminatory. Contradictory, no?
Originally posted by MrHeavySilenceBecause Batman carries missiles around in his pocket. Thread starter said no car.
Claws won't be touching anything, once Wolverine is hit with missiles and plowed over like in X1.
Originally posted by MrHeavySilenceGo watch X1. He gets up a few seconds after he stops sliding through the snow. He was not knocked out, just hurt.
Yeah, after like 30 seconds. By that time, he'll be mowed down repeatedly courtesy of the batmobile. He'll never get back up.
Originally posted by MrHeavySilenceHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Wolverine was obviously not the leader in X3. Storm was. Did you watch the movie?
lol, he obviously can't, or else he would've. He's the leader in X3 and he still didn't pilot.
Originally posted by MrHeavySilenceBecause the mutants on the jet have powers that can out perform anything their jet could do.
Really? Why didn't they stop those jets with any of their weapons then? They don't have any!
Originally posted by MrHeavySilence
Wolverine: "Doesn't this thing have any weapons?"
Obviously not, or else Storm wouldn't have had to do that. [/B][/QUOTE] Storm made 150 tornadoes, which are obviously far more powerful than any weapon on a plane. Use common sense.
Originally posted by MrHeavySilenceHuman stunt men do it all the time. Why shouldn't Wolverine be able to?
lol, you try jumping on a car while its speeding at you.
I was also talking about landing the PLANE on the tumbler.
Since the thread starter established that this fight starts on the ground 10 feet apart with no cars or planes Batman is thrice screwed. He can't drive or fly away from Danger. He's getting gutted real fast.