Originally posted by UniOmni
Firstly ,i wanna see why Avy thinks T-Vo would be of any use in this match. Just because DC thinks he has the greatest amount of willpower in their universe, doesn't mean that jibes over in a neutral universe. In a neutral universe where the S shield is just another emblem on a jocks chest, T-Vo can fall short. So T-vo is of no consequence.
Though in other stats, Superman slightly edges out Thor. Thor did stand up to the attacks of a Celestial, until Gaea showed up to intercede. Durability is inconsquencial, as the diff isn't significant. Strength is pretty much on par. The speed however is the biggest mystery. With the hammer, thor can keep up. Without it, totally outclassed. If it comes to a grapple, Thor can godblast without the hammer. That would probably put Superman in a coma, if not outright kill him. Superman has decent energy projection. His durability is ungodly. And his speed and strength is nearly without parallel.
Captain Marvel is the low point. Physical stats are identical to Superman, but he lacks a true projectile energy blast. Without that, he's just a flying, immensely powerful brick.
Sentry is an unknown currently. Thor can't do this alone, so team DC wins 10/10.
Avy think T-vo is consequential because it simply works for the guy. What does DC and Marvel have to do with Superman's willpower? "S" shield or not, that is how it is...period. Photon pretty much took care of Sentry, the Eradicator is a similar character who was beaten by Supes using T-vo. T-vo was also used against a true Galactus level character successfully. In a realistic fight...Supes would probably go for that to end it quickly, especially seeing as Sentry is a bit out there in the head. Just because you don't like T-vo, doesn't mean all of a sudden it's out the door. People try using ridiculous examples from Thor from the 60's and 70's...at least the T-vo thing is recent.
As for energy projection... "unmeasureable" sure sounds a lot better than "decent" because it is. Superman can downright burn Thor to a crisp should he decide to. He wasn't even using full strength on Blackrocks forcefield and the guy was in pain. Superman can freeze on a planetary scale, and he's near instant. That's damn good projection if I've ever seen it. Thor's weakness is to fists....which is a lot more common than magic is, especially when Supes has dealt with magic on a greater scale than Thor dishes out normally.
If it comes to a grapple, heat vision, freeze breath, or T-vo can be used. Supes can simply vibrate his hand and destroy or seriously damage Thor. Let's not act like he doesn't have his options as well.
I don't believe that Captain Marvel is the weak point at all. He's totally on level with Thor and magic rolls off the guy. Hammer wise as a pure soul, it's possible he may be able to wield Mjolnir himself. Speedwise he's still faster than Thor and should be comparable strenthwise. The fight can go either way.
At this point, I find Sentry to be the weak point. Thor is strong on his own, with a good history of feats to back him up. Sentry unfortunately does not share that.
Originally posted by mighty adam
we don't know how powerfull sentry really is. i hope marvel make sentry the most powerfull hero in comics so superman fanboys will shut up.
Why would you want that? Simply to boost your ego?
I'm amazed by all the complaining about Superman, yet people want to run to his craptastic "clone" just because he's published by Marvel.
Personally, If I had to pick a Supes clone..Majestic is a far, far better choice.
Originally posted by AvalonofthewindIt's ironic I was just gonna come in here and say the same thing.
Why would you want that? Simply to boost your ego?
I'm amazed by all the complaining about Superman, yet people want to run to his craptastic "clone" just because he's published by Marvel.Personally, If I had to pick a Supes clone..Majestic is a far, far better choice.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Why would you want that? Simply to boost your ego?
I'm amazed by all the complaining about Superman, yet people want to run to his craptastic "clone" just because he's published by Marvel.Personally, If I had to pick a Supes clone..Majestic is a far, far better choice.
Wel that's kinda good. With Civil war about to come, Sentry really has Iron man's team at the adv. But now Thor gonna come...o boy. Now that's something to look forward for.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Why would you want that? Simply to boost your ego?
I'm amazed by all the complaining about Superman, yet people want to run to his craptastic "clone" just because he's published by Marvel.Personally, If I had to pick a Supes clone..Majestic is a far, far better choice.
He's not really a clone, Avalon. You'd actually love his mini, to be honest. He's not really that much like Superman. More like Superboy with the ability to use hard-light constructs.
I'd pick Majestic too though.
Originally posted by AvalonofthewindNot me. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see Supes get his @$$ handed to him, but I don't really care what universe the guy doing it comes from. There's plenty of heroes in DC who should kick the crap outta Supes(well @ least one). So far Sentry seems to be living up to that "Superman without all the silliness" phrase. I'll like him until he puts on glasses & people don't recognize him.
Why would you want that? Simply to boost your ego?
I'm amazed by all the complaining about Superman, yet people want to run to his craptastic "clone" just because he's published by Marvel.
Originally posted by brainchild81How does Sentry disguise his identity?
Not me. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see Supes get his @$$ handed to him, but I don't really care what universe the guy doing it comes from. There's plenty of heroes in DC who should kick the crap outta Supes(well @ least one). So far Sentry seems to be living up to that "Superman without all the silliness" phrase. I'll like him until he puts on glasses & people don't recognize him.