who should the x4 villain be

Actualy I hated this movie as you can see by my past posts. Hello. I was fursious Rattner was given the job, and he proved me right by makinfg an awful movie. I just appen to like Vinnie Jones as an actor. And just because its X Men I dont have to like. Okay sure they were better choices, but he was still okay.Yes there are pro wrestler that look like that without being bulked up,but unlike most of them, Vinnie can act better. You obiviously have not seen Vinnie Jones performances in movies such as Lock Stock or Snatch.Also, name 5 people who would have done a better job than he could have done, and explain.

Originally posted by Lighthammer
Actualy I hated this movie as you can see by my past posts. Hello. I was fursious Rattner was given the job, and he proved me right by makinfg an awful movie. I just appen to like Vinnie Jones as an actor. And just because its X Men I dont have to like. Okay sure they were better choices, but he was still okay.Yes there are pro wrestler that look like that without being bulked up,but unlike most of them, Vinnie can act better. You obiviously have not seen Vinnie Jones performances in movies such as Lock Stock or Snatch.Also, name 5 people who would have done a better job than he could have done, and explain.

I have seen those movies, and I hate them. Purely because I'm from the part of London that those movies are set it, all they do is play off a false stereotype that this city needs to escape.

Secondly, act? You think that to play JUGGERNAUT, you need a good actor? Of course you don't, what are you talking about? Professor X, maybe. Juggernaut? Hahaha. Juggernaut doesn't need a good actor, he needs someone who looks the part and can read/speak. That's about it. Seeing as there IS nobody that can play him accurately (because Vinnie Jones didn't, in terms of visuals), they should have either not done him, or done him in CGI.

It's that simple.

-AC

The new villan should be the shadow king since xavier is alive on moira's island

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
they should have either not done him, or done him in CGI.

-AC

Originally posted by Blackbeast
cgi is a horrible choice for any movie that can avoid it and i'm happy that they found an actor with some humorous talents to play juggernaut

Then don't have him. Don't say "CGI looks stupid!" and then have a ridiculous man in a suit who doesn't do the character ANY justice at all. They avoided CGI and the results were worse than ANY CGI Juggernaut. It was the modern day equal of Lou Ferrigno as Hulk.

Why do you want an actor with humour? Juggernaut isn't known for his massive depth and humour. He's a giant, impossibly sized, mystically empowered human.

I swear Marvel have it inside each of you. I've never seen a bigger collection of corporate sheep. You just lap it up.

-AC

First off, just because I like an actor choice, doesnt mean I am a corporate sheep, I am mad That Marvel let this inferior movie slip by okay. I am mad tht Fox screwed up X Men 3. I am mad that Rattner was allowed anywhere near the set.I just Like Jones as Juggernaut. That was one of the few things I liked about the movie.Most of the rest I hated . I am anything but a corporate sheep okay. And eeven withe absolutley need CGI, they still need an actor to do the role. So your argument makes no sense. He is not impossibly sized, if you read the comics he's 6"10 which is smaller than Colossus in his armored form.

I gotta Agree with A.C.
Juggernaut looks rediculous, and so what if he is supposed to be 6'10". He is wide and bulky, impossibly so. Using a real actor is just laziness. I bet Singer wouldn't have wanted to do it that way.

Originally posted by Lighthammer
First off, just because I like an actor choice, doesnt mean I am a corporate sheep, I am mad That Marvel let this inferior movie slip by okay. I am mad tht Fox screwed up X Men 3. I am mad that Rattner was allowed anywhere near the set.I just Like Jones as Juggernaut. That was one of the few things I liked about the movie.Most of the rest I hated . I am anything but a corporate sheep okay. And eeven withe absolutley need CGI, they still need an actor to do the role. So your argument makes no sense. He is not impossibly sized, if you read the comics he's 6"10 which is smaller than Colossus in his armored form.

No no, you can like Vinnie Jones all you want. I wasn't saying that. I was saying that it really confuses me as to why they can blatantly get away with doing that and you'll take it.

Juggernaut cannot be realistically be played by any human, if we are going by what he is known as consistently in the comics. He's not Shadowcat size, he's much BIGGER in general than Colossus. His gerth is impossible.

Vinnie Jones in a voice role, I can't say I'd like, but it'd be better than having ACTUAL Vinnie Jones. They either should have had CGI Juggernaut or no Juggernaut. They didn't need him in the movie.

X-Men have the most fans and fanboys/girls of any Marvel franchise, no matter what they put out, it will make a LOT of money. EG; X-Men trilogy. They are Marvel's cash cows and kids the world over will always scramble to suck the milk from the udder, no matter how sour it tastes.

-AC

I say the X4 villain ought to be Proteus, now that Moira MacTaggart has been introduced. BUT, after seeing the hidden scene at the very end of the credits,

Spoiler:
when we learn that Charles is still alive, but with his mind in another body

Okay I get what your say. Yes I agree that having CGI character and have Jones do the voice is better thanhaving Joes do it in a live role. I was confused when you first said you didnt want to have an actor but I get it know. Singer probably would have done that.

Three is enough. Especially when the only decent one was 2, and that was cameo city full of plotholes.

-AC

Originally posted by LanceWindu
You're wrong.

I think that the villain in X Men 4 should be Apocalpyse or Mr Sinister. Although It would be good if Juggernaut had a bigger role.

Why? What bigger role could Juggernaut have had? He's a henceman, that's all he is. All he's ever been.

I'm starting to think that the only way it could have been worse is if some of the modern day X-Men fans directed it.

-AC

I have to agree with AC. Juggernaut characteriscs are basically the definition for henchmen, superstrong, not that intelligent, does almost everything the main bad guy tells him without much question, he should never be more than a henchman.

night crawler

Originally posted by White Reeper
night crawler

Shut up.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Then don't have him. Don't say "CGI looks stupid!" and then have a ridiculous man in a suit who doesn't do the character ANY justice at all. They avoided CGI and the results were worse than ANY CGI Juggernaut. It was the modern day equal of Lou Ferrigno as Hulk.

Why do you want an actor with humour? Juggernaut isn't known for his massive depth and humour. He's a giant, impossibly sized, mystically empowered human.

I swear Marvel have it inside each of you. I've never seen a bigger collection of corporate sheep. You just lap it up.

-AC

right before you say anything i hated vinnie as cain, but...

as you said IN THE COMICS He's a giant, impossibly sized, mystically empowered human. how ever aside from us comic geeks if he had been empowered in the film they would have to do a juggs film to explain it to the common people instead make him a muttie and there everyone can understand his power or would you want a vinnie jones as the juggernaut film?????

I would go for Apocalypse.He's a great evil...and it would be intresting that Magneto and Mr. Sinister work for him 😛

i think apoc would be to big for one film