Hmm, this is interesting, in Unseen, Unheard Visas says that Katarr has 'less than one hour to live' right before Nihilus appeared. Could this perhaps indicate how long the techniue takes to use? Or perhaps, imo more likely, that becuase you later see the technique create a billowing cloud enveloping the planet that thats how long it takes for it to affect an entire world. Since we can see it as it envelops said world, it stands to reason that it actually takes a period of time to do so, but we know that its less than a hour, so surely that idicates that the technique is near instantaneous in its use, unless the 'black clouds' move at something like lightspeed or whatever. Edit: though then again, the scale in that comic is completely batshit. The whole planet looks to be about the size of Mexico. So idk anymore.....
I know I'm probably not making much sense but if you guys can understand me, any thoughts on the matter?
There's no power that requires a jedi to 'charge up' that I know of. The Force isn't a superlaser. A jedi can do so to get more power I think, like Bane did when he duelled Sirak. But it isn't required to actually use a power. The exception would probably be rituals, which I think we can rule out in this case. There are shots of the ship which make it clear that Nihilus is the only one there. And at Telos there were no indication of anything to do with a ritual.
Besides, isn't the nature of the technique to force bonds onto people, abruptly sever them and then feed off of the death or some-such? I don't think you can channel or charge up a force bonding technique without the person actually there.
Also, I don't get how people can try to claim that Traya could be talking about anything other than combat strength when she calls you her greatest pupil. You just beat and killed her in one-on-one combat, what the hell else could she be talking about? 😬
The actual line is 'You are greater than any I have ever trained. By killing me here- you have rewarded me more than you can possibly know.' That sinches (what the christ is the spelling again) it imo. She directly links you being her greatest pupil with being able to kill her.
Not that it matters. You guys are going to ignore everything she says anyway. She has been known to lie on occasion I guess, so I don't really blame you....
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greatest pupil had nothing to do with combat strength. Every time you try to talk about combat strength to her she calls you a fool in the game. The ability to kill others was NOT what she was training you for in that game. (Not that i have any idea what she actually was... most of the pertinent dialogue was cut...)
She was training the Exile to feed on everyone else so the Exile could be used to magnify the echo from Malachor V and destroy the Force.
Yeah, Kreia was batshit crazy.
You know if you really want to know what she was saying, read the dialogue.tlk file. The developments littered the thing with notes on what Kreia actually means or what type of emotions she was feeling as a guide for the VA. In fact, all the characters' lines have the commentary.
Actually Kreia was never going to destroy the Force imo, that was just a big nasty threat to get the Exile to come to her for her final exam. The only way she could 'destroy the Force' was to kill the Exile, which she emphatically states she doesn't want to do. If Kreia did want the force destroyed, she wanted to do it through the Exile-- by teaching him, making him strong without having him use the force as a crutch, and presumably having him spread her lessons to others.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
The way she described the Force really makes it clear that she hated it. She used it "like (she) would use a poison." By using the Exile's Wound powers, she was hoping to undo the Force itself. Never really got how.
The trouble is, its Kreia saying these things. And Kreia lies. Alot.
I don't doubt that she probably did want to destory it, thugh she wasn't actually trying to do so imo. Her motivations totally stem from her hatred of the Force and she see's it as a callous manipulative force (Only she's allowed that privilege!Seriously, Kreia's a control freak which is why she doesn't like droids, she can't hear their thoughts and can't manipulate them, and why she hates the Force, something that controls her every action and every other action. Notice how she can predict things thoudsands of years in the future through the Force. Becuase these things are always going to happen inside the Force, and no-one can change that) and values freedom of choice above all things.
Thats why she loves the Exile. She's a black hole in the Force, a place where it cannot inhabit, cannot influence and cannot control. The Exile is the only person in the universe who is free to actually choose. Thats what she wants the Exile to learn, to make her own choices, and thats why she was so interested in the fact that the Exile consciously rejected the Force, and why she gets kinda disappointed that it turns out you only did it becuase you were ****ing terrified.
In essense, Kreia loves the Exile becuase she's the main character and can make any decision you want her to. How very meta. 😎
Chris Avellone likes to do this, deconstruct a games mechanics. Like how the Exile is a freak becuase she gains exp. through slaughter, she can revive fallen comrades with her mere presence, like they hadn't just lost all their hitpoints, how they have no choice but to do what the player character wants them to do, etc etc.
Which is why he's far superior to Karpyshyn and his terribly bland Kotor 1 'by the books' dark-side, light-side typical Star Wars stuff. Seriously, no-one in Kotor 1 had as much depth as Kreia. Not even Bandon!