Its been asked before but ill ask again cus im confused why it wouldn't work. Why cant you drown him? His adamantium doesn't protect his lungs so water can still get in them, therefore, he drowns. Plus he isn't immortal or a vampire so he needs to breath; once the brain dies, which is what happens when you drown, no amount of regenerative powers is bringing you back. Getting to his brain is key, thats why shooting him in the head doesn't work, but attacking his brain from the inside should do the trick.
I will say for all realistic reasoning aside, Wolverine could not easily die. He has fought class 100 characters and not been killed by physical force. A lot of injuries he sustains would create a state of "hypoxia" (meaning lack of oxygen) in the localized areas which would make them impossible to heal, so why would we reason that his brain would be any different if he drowned, etc? I also tend to believe that all mutants get their powers from an extra-dimensional source that feeds them their abilities, and since his is healing, the source could allow him to regenerate from almost nothing, maybe even a single cell I suppose (we all start out as a single cell as a fertilized egg, so maybe he can grow back from a single cell, I don't know).
Also, he is such an important character that by the laws of comic books he will not die anytime soon at least. So there, I just gave two reasons why Wolverine can never die!!!!!
Originally posted by K-Dog
A lot of injuries he sustains would create a state of "hypoxia" (meaning lack of oxygen) in the localized areas which would make them impossible to heal, so why would we reason that his brain would be any different if he drowned, etc?
Same reason why you wouldn't die from a gunshot to a body region like the arm, yet a head shot would be fatal. Thats pretty obvious don't you think ...
Originally posted by K-Dog
I also tend to believe that all mutants get their powers from an extra-dimensional source that feeds them their abilities, and since his is healing, the source could allow him to regenerate from almost nothing, maybe even a single cell I suppose (we all start out as a single cell as a fertilized egg, so maybe he can grow back from a single cell, I don't know).
Actually, I believe in the X-men universe, "mutants" by definition are just a product of evolution. Most of the concepts are based on science.
I may not be that up-to-date, but I recall that in the Xavier Protocols, Prof X says Wolverine can be killed by severing his head from his body.
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But Wolverine regrows other bodyparts just fine unlike a normal human whose healing isn't perfect, so how do we know his central nervous system can't also do it, just because ours can't? I would assume a being with superhuman injury regeneration would be able to improve on our natural limitations like that. I don't know if that has ever been stated in a comic or not though.
(Actually, I believe in the X-men universe, "mutants" by definition are just a product of evolution. Most of the concepts are based on science.)--quoted by Placidity in last post
I don't have a leg to stand on by saying this (because it is not cannon) but they need to change that. A mutation won't allow you to turn to a metal that is stronger than steel on demand. A mutation won't allow you to create tornadoes, or teleport. Stronger, yes, extra healing factor, yes, change shape/color to a degree yes. That other stuff, no.
Besides, isn't Cyclops stated to channel energy from an extra-dimensional source? If so, I believe that's where the majority of other mutant powers come from.
I may not be that up-to-date, but I recall that in the Xavier Protocols, Prof X says Wolverine can be killed by severing his head from his body. [/B][/QUOTE] quoted by Placidity
I'm sure you're correct.
Thanks for the discussion.
Originally posted by K-Dog
But Wolverine regrows other bodyparts just fine unlike a normal human whose healing isn't perfect, so how do we know his central nervous system can't also do it, just because ours can't? I would assume a being with superhuman injury regeneration would be able to improve on our natural limitations like that. I don't know if that has ever been stated in a comic or not though.
If you want to make this discussion scientific, I've done that a few pages back. Cells just cant survive without energy and oxygen. If you starve Woly off from either of those, his death will be inevitable.
Also, if you have an understanding of biology, you'd know that cells cannot withstand extreme high temperatures (e.g within the Sun). It really doesnt make a difference if Wolverine's body system is more advanced.
Originally posted by K-Dog
I don't have a leg to stand on by saying this (because it is not cannon) but they need to change that. A mutation won't allow you to turn to a metal that is stronger than steel on demand. A mutation won't allow you to create tornadoes, or teleport. Stronger, yes, extra healing factor, yes, change shape/color to a degree yes. That other stuff, no.
Besides, isn't Cyclops stated to channel energy from an extra-dimensional source? If so, I believe that's where the majority of other mutant powers come from.
I believe Cyclops collects energy from the Sun for his optic blasts.
Wolverine's level of Healing factor really isnt possible either from mutation since it defies the Law of Conservation of Mass. But again, it is a comic, so its scientific plausibility should be given some head room. The difference is it is far too much a stretch to think that Wolverine can survive some of the extreme environments/situations I've mentioned.
Your exactly right though, the X-men Universe isnt possible, but this is a comic. What I am trying to say is that alot of Marvel comics TRY to use science to explain character abilities.
Obviously there is no satisfactory scientific explanation for it, but they try.
Think of some of their most popular characters, Spiderman, Hulk and the X-men. They are all based on DNA mutations.
Compare this to DC comic characters, in which alot of their character's powers are based on magic, mysticism etc.
Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Green Lantern.
Originally posted by K-DogI disagree. Technically a mutation is a change that effects your biological makeup. For example, someone with regenerative abilities had there physical makeup changed to the point where theyre cells coagulate at an accelerated pace. Now who's to say Storm's biology wasnt changed to the point where her brain was effected and she is now connected with the physical universe?!
I don't have a leg to stand on by saying this (because it is not cannon) but they need to change that. A mutation won't allow you to turn to a metal that is stronger than steel on demand. A mutation won't allow you to create tornadoes, or teleport. Stronger, yes, extra healing factor, yes, change shape/color to a degree yes. That other stuff, no.
Besides, isn't Cyclops stated to channel energy from an extra-dimensional source? If so, I believe that's where the majority of other mutant powers come from.
Meh, its a comic book!!!!
This reminds me of those morons who complain about a man from Krypton being able to catch a falling person without cutting them in half.
I have truly seen the error of my ways...yes, the mutant powers are not extra-dimensional (although I believe that some form of connection to the universe like you just said would be a good explanation).
I believe we will see Hancock catching a boy who fell from a great height without cutting him in half, so that proves it can happen not only in a comic book but also a comic movie!
I know we could go on all day about this stuff. Wolverine dying from lack of oxygen would also obey real biology and not comic biology so how do we know that would happen though.
May Wolverine live long and prosper and entertain us with his claws while he does 😮💨
Originally posted by K-Dog
I have truly seen the error of my ways...
lol, you're a humble guy, I like that. Sometimes I wish more people on this forum, including myself, could be more like you. Most of the time, people here don't even listen to what others have to say, they just dish out their own assertions and shut their ears.
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Originally posted by Arachnid1
Deadpool and wolverine have the same exact healing factor. The only reason Wolverines is slower is because adamantium is a poisonous metal and it handcaps his healing factor a bit so it doesn't work as well as its supposed too.In fact, Deadpool got his healing factor from Wolverine.
By the way, the only way I know to kill wolverine is drowning him. You can break his neck to put him down for a long time (all his joints are connected by adamantium chains but his neck is kind of bare I guess) and it takes him a long time to recover from broken necks.
Deadpool got his healing factor with Wolverine, but the more important thing on his immortality is that he was cursed by the Death so that he can never meet her. Thus his immortality goes beyond healing factor- he can't die period.
Wolverine doesn't have any special kind of relationships with the Death AFAIR.