Full god Hercules vs. Superman

"1. darkseid.
2. cythonna (supes one-shot 1999 -- someone prolly has scans somewhere or look it up yourself)
3. maggeddon (even greater than any 'gods' whom supes withstood in a direct confrontation)
4. captain marvel has the powers of SEVERAL gods . . .

herc's durability feats are really paltry in contrast to superman's. use your eyes and check the respect thread. cripes, before olympian arrived i was the number 1 herc backer 'round here, and even i can admit he's not close to supes in durability. strength is close -- same tier, though supes almost always holds back, herc rarely does. even in strength i'd give supes the edge.

herc has a skill advantage -- that's all. learn about a character before shoving your foot in your mouth"

Explain how a character who has top tier durability doesnt even hold a candle to a character who is only above the regular top tier in that regard.

Superman is above him in durability, no doubt but you make it sound like Herc is streeth level in comparation. He has taken shots from beings higher than Gods also, you know.

This is the same crapolla that someone who IS top tier like WonderMan or Namor arent nowhere NEAR the strenght of Supes. They are in the same group. As much of an advantage Superman has over him, he doesnt "smoke" anyone on his group. Not WW, not Namor, not Wman, certainly not the Hulk and neither Herc or Thor.

Some people just like Superman to be the high end of it all when you have the comics itself saying no in your face.

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"Anyways even if Supes was in a wheelchair he could beat Herc"

In a poker game. He learned from his Pa during his youth while grounded for destroying the truck.

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"One blast to the eyes or face of hv would certainly do him in. Supes hv hurt Thor anyway you look at it and you can clearly see it wasn't a full blast."

We can see cleary? Really? Show us then.

Then tell us why in the world would he hold back against a powerful opponent that humbled him the first time and with his universe at stake.

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"That's what softened Thor up before the knock out. Thor was lying on the ground with smoke rollin off him. So don't say the hv didn't hurt Thor."

Of course it did. Who said it didnt? Thor was tired and he made Superman tired the same way, considering the guy could barely even stand. Why are you going on one way only?

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"How come none likes Olympian?"

Because like Jack Nicholson put it best: none can handle the truth!

Im not here to be liked. This is a message board, i keep the friendly parts out of here.

Where i actually need to exercize them naughty

whatever. i don't care where he gets the comments from so long as they make some form of sense. my favourite argument is this one:

HE'S A GOD -- 'NUF SAID!

doh

seriously, you have got to be kidding . . .

but i didn't mean to go off on him. hulk=strength showed a little bit about why hulk DOESN'T EQUAL intelligence when he insinuated i was a fanboy and thought it hilarious that i said supes durability>herc's durability.

have your opinion, but don't bash others' and if you want your opinion to matter in any conceiveable way, give some damn proof once in a while . . .

criminy.

"HE'S A GOD -- 'NUF SAID!"

Wich is a stupid argument. As much as Superman wins just because well, hes Superman!

Being a God doesnt guarantee nothing. Even in the myths Gods lost to Herc when he wasent one. Definatly not what i base my evidence from.

Originally posted by olympian

We can see cleary? Really? Show us then.

Then tell us why in the world would he hold back against a powerful opponent that humbled him the first time and with his universe at stake.

Thor humbled Supes the first time? I don't remember it that way. I remember Thor hitting Supes with the hammer knocking him through a building then Supes is back up fighting and Thor was going through a building a moment later. No damage to Superman though he was still standing unlike Thor.

"A full does of hv looks like the one he used on the DD clones. Or the one he used to heat the Earth u"

A full dose of HV wipping out DD clones that Batman was chopping with an axe isent impressive at ALL.

Heating the Earth isent concusive or destructive force. As impressive as it is. Unless some measure was given at the time, i have yet to see a hv blast of Supes be enough to destroy a planet point blank.

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"Thor humbled Supes the first time? I don't remember it that way."

He smacked Superman thro a building and then Superman with the help of MM atacking at the same time, couldnt put him down. Looks like a close encounter to you? Who do you honestly belive that looked better.

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"No damage to Superman though he was still standing unlike Thor."

Bleeding isent damage?

The things i hear in some places....

Both him and Thor wer weak and tired. As both went down easily after an attack. Thor by Superman itself and Superman by the Avengers right after. And both without being able to fight back.

How about an explanation of why he would hold back with his universe at stake and with a powerful opponent he was already aware.

i think super man

Originally posted by olympian

A full dose of HV wipping out DD clones that Batman was chopping with an axe isent impressive at ALL.

Originally posted by olympian

Heating the Earth isent concusive or destructive force. As impressive as it is. Unless some measure was given at the time, i have yet to see a hv blast of Supes be enough to destroy a planet point blank.

Supes can adjust his force of his hv like he did when he blasted the moon from Earth. In the feat I mentioned he didn't want to destroy the Earth. Get it?

Originally posted by olympian

Everyone else who has read it, does. He smacked Superman thro a building and then Superman with the help of MM atacking at the same time, couldnt put him down. Thats humbling.

Originally posted by olympian

Bleeding isent damage?

The things i hear in some places....

Originally posted by olympian

Both him and Thor was weak and tired. As both went down easily after an attack.

He was in la-la land. 😖leep:

Originally posted by olympian

How about an explanation of why he would hold back with his universe at stake and with a powerful opponent he was already aware.

Stalemate. Supes has the speed advantage and Herc has the fighting advantage. Could go either way imo.

"Does anythig impress you?"

Does this remark means you though id be impressed? What does this feat has to impress anyone? You had a streeth level guy chopping them with an axe, so theyr durability must be impressive.

Really now.

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"Supes can adjust his force of his hv like he did when he blasted the moon from Earth. In the feat I mentioned he didn't want to destroy the Earth. Get it?"

So Thor took a blast that can destroy the Earth if he doesnt hold back? Ok.

Just follow the questions...

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"Just like Thors couldn't put him down with a direct attack from the hammer. Humbling isn't anything to brag about."

I answered what you asked.

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"I was talking about their first fight. Supes had a bloody lip. Nothing to brag about once again."

He cried in pain and bleeded.

I ask again. In what part of the world that isent considered damage. Again i just answered your question.

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"Yea but Thor didn't get back up.

He was in la-la land. "

Psst. Get everyones version then. Hes getting up in the exact same panel that Superman is.

The irony.

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"Probably cause he didn't feel threatened. You should know Superman doth not kill"

Ah i see. You dont have an explanation. Probably because theres none in that series that goes away with what you try to pass on?

They wer fighting for the survival of theyr universe. That was stated. This point doesnt go any other way.

Superman wins.

Originally posted by olympian
"Does anythig impress you?"

Does this remark means you though id be impressed? What does this feat has to impress anyone? You had a streeth level guy chopping them with an axe, so theyr durability must be impressive.

Really now.

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"Supes can adjust his force of his hv like he did when he blasted the moon from Earth. In the feat I mentioned he didn't want to destroy the Earth. Get it?"

So Thor took a blast that can destroy the Earth if he doesnt hold back? Ok.

Just follow the questions...

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"Just like Thors couldn't put him down with a direct attack from the hammer. Humbling isn't anything to brag about."

I answered what you asked.

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"I was talking about their first fight. Supes had a bloody lip. Nothing to brag about once again."

He cried in pain and bleeded.

I ask again. In what part of the world that isent considered damage. Again i just answered your question.

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"Yea but Thor didn't get back up.

He was in la-la land. "

Psst. Get everyones version then. Hes getting up in the exact same panel that Superman is.

The irony.

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"Probably cause he didn't feel threatened. You should know Superman doth not kill"

Ah i see. You dont have an explanation. Probably because theres none in that series that goes away with what you try to pass on?

They wer fighting for the survival of theyr universe. That was stated. This point doesnt go any other way.

Your logic is off the wall. And I am not the only one who notices it..................

Originally posted by snoopdogg
No comment. Your hopeless. 💃

Your logic is off the wall. And I am not the only one who notices it..................

Originally posted by badabing
No Snoop, I've also noticed their flawed logic.

Snoop ive got to hand it to you. Your damn funny when your trying to save face. Not as much as some but damn.

hysterical

So Superman was holding back even with his universe at stake? What evidence in the crossover exists of this.
So Superman didnt looked the worst the first time?

So bleeding and being hurt isent considered damage?

So DD clones that get chopped by Batman are durability impressive?

So after they wer both k.o, Thor and Superman dont get up at the same time?

Can you please show the scans of all those? Im sure we would all like to see how "right" you are.

Originally posted by olympian
Snoop ive got to hand it to you. Your damn funny when your trying to save face. Not as much as some but damn.

hysterical

So Superman was holding back even with his universe at stake? What evidence in the crossover exists of this.
So Superman didnt looked the worst the first time?

So bleeding and being hurt isent considered damage?

So DD clones that get chopped by Batman are durability impressive?

So after they wer both k.o, Thor and Superman dont get up at the same time?

Can you please show the scans of all those? Im sure we would all like to see how "right" you are.

In any event Superman beats Herc. anyday of the week and twice on Sundays.

Originally posted by olympian
Snoop ive got to hand it to you. Your damn funny when your trying to save face. Not as much as some but damn.

hysterical

So Superman was holding back even with his universe at stake? What evidence in the crossover exists of this.
So Superman didnt looked the worst the first time?

So bleeding and being hurt isent considered damage?

So DD clones that get chopped by Batman are durability impressive?

So after they wer both k.o, Thor and Superman dont get up at the same time?

Can you please show the scans of all those? Im sure we wouldall like to see how "right" you are.

Originally posted by badabing
Superman is still too much for Hercules. Are you trying to redirect the point because you can't win a debate for Hercules winning against Superman?

Herc. cannot win if Supes uses all his power-set. H2h I give Herc. a little better odds but not the majority over Supes.

Originally posted by badabing
Superman is still too much for Hercules. Are you trying to redirect the point because you can't win a debate for Hercules winning against Superman?

😱 ✅

"Superman is still too much for Hercules. Are you trying to redirect the point because you can't win a debate for Hercules winning against Superman"

All powers allowed: Superman

Slugfest like it usually goes in comics: close enough

H2H: Herc

I find it hard for me to try to redirect a question whose answer only today i said it about 10 times.

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"It's obvious you live in a alternate reality and I cannot change that.

In any event Superman beats Herc. anyday of the week and twice on Sundays."

Still trying to save face? Here let me help. You said:

"Yea but Thor didn't get back up.

He was in la-la land. "

Then when confronted with the fact you wer wrong, you just simply ignored it:

"No comment. Your hopeless.

Your logic is off the wall. And I am not the only one who notices it.................."

Here is my logic off the wall:

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/4238/jlaave14ix.jpg

How about another one. DD clones who get chopped by an axe is durably impressive?