Slade vs Flash

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He-guy88 AntiMatter Corps

Originally posted by Validus
Flash has never used his full speed in a Slade fight. Not one time. Going by forum rules means Wally or Bart or Jay or whoever is fighting at optimum level. Any straight up fight would look something like this.

Or likely worse since that speedster was only Quicksilver level. Slade to Wally is nothing but the Worlds Smartest Statue.

id say its wally cause theirs a speed force in this tread so wally would be the fastest

newjak86 I am Beyond Power

Originally posted by Validus
Flash has never used his full speed in a Slade fight. Not one time. Going by forum rules means Wally or Bart or Jay or whoever is fighting at optimum level. Any straight up fight would look something like this.

Or likely worse since that speedster was only Quicksilver level. Slade to Wally is nothing but the Worlds Smartest Statue.

Your confusing Reaction (Movement) with Speed. Speed is the ability to overcome its own inertia and propel itself forward. Flash since he can call upon the speedforce can bring in more enrgy to do this task.
Movement is another animal. Movement is the ability for the Brain to take in information and tell the body what to do. This is why Slade can react fast enough to see the Flash or at least in the comics mechanics could.

Validus Senior Member

Originally posted by newjak86
Your confusing Reaction (Movement) with Speed. Speed is the ability to overcome its own inertia and propel itself forward. Flash since he can call upon the speedforce can bring in more enrgy to do this task.
Movement is another animal. Movement is the ability for the Brain to take in information and tell the body what to do. This is why Slade can react fast enough to see the Flash or at least in the comics mechanics could.

So? What reaction feat does Slade have on par with Bart Allen reading an entire library worth of books in 20 minutes? Or Wally processing as fast as an 853rd century super computer?

He-guy88 AntiMatter Corps
Originally posted by Validus
So? What reaction feat does Slade have on par with Bart Allen reading an entire library worth of books in 20 minutes?

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Mider Senior Member

yeah why dont you write your comments in when they got thanos beating tyrant when you wanna talk about bad writing.

newjak86 I am Beyond Power

Originally posted by Validus
So? What reaction feat does Slade have on par with Bart Allen reading an entire library worth of books in 20 minutes? Or Wally processing as fast as an 853rd century super computer?
The feat is his ability to keep up with Flash just like some people's strength are only shown through fighting other strong people.
Plus DS has been stated to be able to take in a battle situation and see every possible outcome instantly that is a great idea on his ability to take in information and process it.

Cosmic Cube I don't have any friends.

Slade wins via CIS

Cosmic Cube I don't have any friends.

I wonder... why is Deathstroke such a bad mofo?

newjak86 I am Beyond Power

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
I wonder... why is Deathstroke such a bad mofo?
te fact he has just enough physical states to be helpful. He has really good weaponary to help him. He can process information really fast which is belive it a very important ability to have if the only thing keeping from being destroyed is if you can quickly come up with a plan and execute to perfection.
And a little CIS doesn't hurt either.

Validus Senior Member
Originally posted by newjak86
The feat is his ability to keep up with Flash just like some people's strength are only shown through fighting other strong people.

A Flash who is moving slow enough to see bombs detonate and completely explode, side step them and get impaled on a sword. A feat which directly contradicts this event along with Wally's other feats.

http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jla89pg012jd.jpg
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Wouldn't this feat automatically prove that Flash was nowhere near his top speed in Identity Crisis?

This is the equivalent of saying Batman has the durability to hang with Superman based on their past encounters.

Originally posted by newjak86
Plus DS has been stated to be able to take in a battle situation and see every possible outcome instantly that is a great idea on his ability to take in information and process it.

Slade has been described as having a computer brain. Wally has actively kept pace with a 853rd century super computer.

Mider Senior Member

no slade wins via having been upgraded so many darn times no CIS or PIS is needed.

branhole Restricted
Originally posted by Mider
yeah why dont you write your comments in when they got thanos beating tyrant when you wanna talk about bad writing.

when did anyone say thanos beat tyrant ever. and is flash faster than gladiators 100x lightspeed.

Sixth_Winged Senior Member

KMC is probably the only board I've seen where people can possibly advocate this. It's called plot induced stupidity. Flash had every possible reason to go all out on Slade after what Dr. Light taunting yet get's dumbed down along with GL.

Sixth_Winged Senior Member
Originally posted by Mider
no slade wins via having been upgraded so many darn times no CIS or PIS is needed.

He was only upgraded once.

newjak86 I am Beyond Power

Originally posted by Validus
A Flash who is moving slow enough to see bombs detonate and completely explode, side step them and get impaled on a sword. A feat which directly contradicts this event along with Wally's other feats.

http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jla89pg012jd.jpg
http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jla89pg028eh.jpg

Wouldn't this feat automatically prove that Flash was nowhere near his top speed in Identity Crisis?

This is the equivalent of saying Batman has the durability to hang with Superman based on their past encounters.

Slade has been described as having a computer brain. Wally has actively kept pace with a 853rd century super computer.

That is valid point on that one encounter. What about the other ones where Slade has managed to keep up with a Flash.

Yes a computer brain but how powerful of a computer huh. A simple staement like that can't be taken at face value. Its like someone has unlimited power despite their being someone who is stronger. There can't be two unlimited at the same time as unlimited means just that infinite. But many chracters are decribed this way.

The feats themselves show us how to imply these statements.

Cosmic Cube I don't have any friends.

Does normal Flash ever exceed lightspeed without going into the speedforce?

Validus Senior Member

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Does normal Flash ever exceed lightspeed without going into the speedforce?

Wally can control whether or not he goes into the speedforce.

Originally posted by newjak86
That is valid point on that one encounter. What about the other ones where Slade has managed to keep up with a Flash.

What other times? When he shot Bart in the knee he waited until Bart stopped and hit him with a tranquilizer. Later Bart was moving at such a speed to have a normal conversation with Robin. We've seen Flashes have conversations amongst themselves and other super fast heroes at explicitly stated super speed. I can't think of any other times but I'm sure they all involved CIS on the Flashes part.

Validus Senior Member

Originally posted by newjak86
Yes a computer brain but how powerful of a computer huh. A simple staement like that can't be taken at face value. Its like someone has unlimited power despite their being someone who is stronger. There can't be two unlimited at the same time as unlimited means just that infinite. But many chracters are decribed this way.

The feats themselves show us how to imply these statements.


The feats do speak for themselves and Slade has no close to lightspeed feats, period. The closest is the time he reacted fast enough see Superman's heat vision racing towards him. He was still blasted into the wall by it though. Heat vision was proven to be slower than a non full speed Flash in The Flash #209.

newjak86 I am Beyond Power

Originally posted by Validus
The feats do speak for themselves and Slade has no close to lightspeed feats, period. The closest is the time he reacted fast enough see Superman's heat vision racing towards him. He was still blasted into the wall by it though.
Yes he can't run at lightspeed.
What does that feat tell you he turned saw an energy attack moving how fast and processed what it was before it hit him. If he had Flashes SPEED he could have avoided it then and there. His reaction time though was able to see it.
Its just like when he got speed blitzed by Kid-Flash he got hit and then he his brain registered it and what happened he countered and then Kid-Flash couldn't do anything.

Blair Wind The Iron Avenger

Lets just say he DOES touch him...whats he gonna do?
Flash can just:
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http://img503.imageshack.us/my.php?image=flashheal27dm.jpg

and Flashs processing speeds:
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http://img52.imageshack.us/my.php?image=flashv280pggiant02436vb.jpg
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he could always just do this:
http://img94.imageshack.us/my.php?image=flash145p126dw.jpg
http://img94.imageshack.us/my.php?image=flash145p135uf.jpg

or...just steal his speed:
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