Slade vs Flash

Started by Cosmic Cube4 pages

Originally posted by Validus
Wally can control whether or not he goes into the speedforce.

What other times? When he shot Bart in the knee he waited until Bart stopped and hit him with a tranquilizer. Later Bart was moving at such a speed to have a normal conversation with Robin. We've seen Flashes have conversations amongst themselves and other super fast heroes at explicitly stated super speed. I can't think of any other times but I'm sure they all involved CIS on the Flashes part.

When has he exceeded lightspeed without going into the speedforce? I've never seen him do it.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Lets just say he DOES touch him...whats he gonna do?
Flash can just:
http://img503.imageshack.us/my.php?image=flashheal16ph.jpg
http://img503.imageshack.us/my.php?image=flashheal27dm.jpg

and Flashs processing speeds:
http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dccomics1m4pg062ak.jpg
http://img52.imageshack.us/my.php?image=flashv280pggiant02436vb.jpg
http://img52.imageshack.us/my.php?image=flashv280pggiant02450fz.jpg

he could always just do this:
http://img94.imageshack.us/my.php?image=flash145p126dw.jpg
http://img94.imageshack.us/my.php?image=flash145p135uf.jpg

or...just steal his speed:
http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=flashv2180part1ironheights378d.jpg

That first one is so cool.

Originally posted by newjak86
Yes he can't run at lightspeed.
What does that feat tell you he turned saw an energy attack moving how fast and processed what it was before it hit him.

Actually what that feat tells me is that he wasn't fast enough to move away from an energy that not only isn't 1% as fast as Flash at full speed but only barely saw it coming in the first place. So how does he plan to beat Flash if he can't move fast enough?

Originally posted by newjak86
Its just like when he got speed blitzed by Kid-Flash he got hit and then he his brain registered it and what happened he countered and then Kid-Flash couldn't do anything.

Yes, a Kid Flash who was having a conversation with Robin. Normal, human Tim Drake.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Lets just say he DOES touch him...whats he gonna do?
Flash can just:
http://img503.imageshack.us/my.php?image=flashheal16ph.jpg
http://img503.imageshack.us/my.php?image=flashheal27dm.jpg

and Flashs processing speeds:
http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dccomics1m4pg062ak.jpg
http://img52.imageshack.us/my.php?image=flashv280pggiant02436vb.jpg
http://img52.imageshack.us/my.php?image=flashv280pggiant02450fz.jpg

he could always just do this:
http://img94.imageshack.us/my.php?image=flash145p126dw.jpg
http://img94.imageshack.us/my.php?image=flash145p135uf.jpg

or...just steal his speed:
http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=flashv2180part1ironheights378d.jpg

Did I not state earlier that if well written Flash should dominate almost anyone he comes up.
I was taking the normal Flash and even then admitted that Slade would not take the the majority at all. He would be lucky to get 2/10 wins. But he has shown the ability to register and process those speeds. 😉

If CIS counts, Flash will lose. If not, he wins.

Originally posted by newjak86
Did I not state earlier that if well written Flash should dominate almost anyone he comes up.
I was taking the normal Flash and even then admitted that Slade would not take the the majority at all. He would be lucky to get 2/10 wins. But he has shown the ability to register and process those speeds. 😉

So you agree Slade can only beat Flash when he is moving at low Mach speeds which by definition would be CIS on Wally's end?

Any instances of Flash traveling faster than light that either of you can think of?

even wolverine slade spiderman and capt vs flash they would never win once out of 100 fights.

Originally posted by Validus
Actually what that feat tells me is that he wasn't fast enough to move away from an energy that not only isn't 1% as fast as Flash at full speed but only barely saw it coming in the first place. So how does he plan to beat Flash if he can't move fast enough?

Yes, a Kid Flash who was having a conversation with Robin. Normal, human Tim Drake.

and that means what exactly in the relam of things.
Are you saying that he couldn't possibly be able to talk at normal speeds if he going really fast. That would also imply though that he wasn't trying against Slade and genreally against people trying to hurt you, you aren't going to hold back enough to give them a chance.

scratch that....ask val if he knows CC

Originally posted by Validus
So you agree Slade can only beat Flash when he is moving at low Mach speeds which by definition would be CIS on Wally's end?

If he uses all his Speed Force powers, even a Mach speed Flash will beat Slade.

Flash would have to let him win the way he does in comics.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
If he uses all his Speed Force powers, even a Mach speed Flash will beat Slade.

Flash would have to let him win the way he does in comics.


Thank you CC. This is all I'm trying to prove here.

Originally posted by Validus
So you agree Slade can only beat Flash when he is moving at low Mach speeds which by definition would be CIS on Wally's end?
No what I'm saying is if Slade is looking at him he can register a Flashes Speed for the first few moments which he has shown. It is in this time frame that Slade as a possible chance at winning. After that I don't care how much Info Slade can take the ability for a Flash to get from point A to point B is just to great for anyone to follow.

Originally posted by newjak86
and that means what exactly in the relam of things.
Are you saying that he couldn't possibly be able to talk at normal speeds if he going really fast. That would also imply though that he wasn't trying against Slade and genreally against people trying to hurt you, you aren't going to hold back enough to give them a chance.

Holding back is a daily part of being a comic book superhero. Don't see how that comes as a surprise.

Originally posted by Validus
Thank you CC. This is all I'm trying to prove here.

You're very welcome.

Originally posted by Validus
Holding back is a daily part of being a comic book superhero. Don't see how that comes as a surprise.

This is so true.

Originally posted by Validus
Holding back is a daily part of being a comic book superhero. Don't see how that comes as a surprise.
It is true but not to the point that a superhero will put their own well being in danger if they can end a fight early without loss of life.

Originally posted by newjak86
It is true but not to the point that a superhero will put their own well being in danger if they can end a fight early without loss of life.

If that was the case Flash would have killed his whole rogues gallery 20 years ago.

Has the Flash ever gone past lightspeed without going into the Speedforce or time traveling? I've asked for proof of this a billion times in my 2 year tenure on this board, and I've never got it.

Can he really do it?

Originally posted by Validus
If that was the case Flash would have killed his whole rogues gallery 20 years ago.
Not kill but if you have enough speed to avoid someone with ease then why not use it if you don't get hit you don't get hurt and he doesn't die thats the point. He didn't have to kill Slade just go behind him tie him up before he ever knew what happened if possessed the speed to do so.