Street Levellers who can beat Wolverine

Started by riceroost52 pages

Originally posted by batdude123
The reason Batman with prep is so good is because with it he has taken down superhumans with it before.
But does Batman use prep successfully against Superhumans that have a lot more training in black ops/combat/ninja crap than he does? Just about every time I see Bats use Prep it is against Superman, or Green Lantern, or someone who does not think like Batman. Someone like Wolverine who has been schooled in a way very similar to Batman, but to a much greater degree and duration is going to be a hell of a lot more difficult to use prep against.

Originally posted by riceroost
But does Batman use prep successfully against Superhumans that have a lot more training in black ops/combat/ninja crap than he does? Just about every time I see Bats use Prep it is against Superman, or Green Lantern, or someone who does not think like Batman. Someone like Wolverine who has been schooled in a way very similar to Batman, but to a much greater degree and duration is going to be a hell of a lot more difficult to use prep against.

Wolverine's dangerous mindset would be an asset no doubt. However with Batman studying Wolverine's weaknesses, I don't think Wolverine's ninja training would make much of a difference.

Originally posted by batdude123
Wolverine's dangerous mindset would be an asset no doubt. However with Batman studying Wolverine's weaknesses, I don't think Wolverine's ninja training would make much of a difference.

What has Batman really done in 24 hour prep?

(Not sarcasm, it's a question)

Originally posted by Soleran
You're so literal its ridiculous.
No I'm not. You said Batman could evade Wolverine if Wolverine engaged him. That would entail Batman being faster (which he's not) able to fly (which he can't) or frikkin teleport (and since Wolverine wrecks Nightcrawler teleport means squat anyway.)

Originally posted by riceroost
No I'm not. You said Batman could evade Wolverine if Wolverine engaged him. That would entail Batman being faster (which he's not) able to fly (which he can't) or frikkin teleport (and since Wolverine wrecks Nightcrawler teleport means squat anyway.)

I need you to think out of the box here, OUT of your box more specifically.................... 😆

Originally posted by batdude123
Wolverine's dangerous mindset would be an asset no doubt. However with Batman studying Wolverine's weaknesses, I don't think Wolverine's ninja training would make much of a difference.
What weaknesses does Wolverine have for Batman to exploit? Sonics for super senses, but honestly Batman would need a lot of time to observe Wolverine, and the likelyhood of that happening before Wolverine notices someone is watching him is kind of dubious.

Wolverine's ninja training is pretty impressive. He can make himself invisible in broad daylight, in an open field, when Nightcrawler is looking right at him.

My point is when has Batman successfully employed his prep against:

A) a superhuman.
B) w/ enhanced senses.
C) who has very Batmanesque training.
D) and has been doing the Batman thing for over a century???

Even if Batman preps for Deathstroke, he's still not dealing with someone who has a higher level of experience than Captain America. I dont think it's quite as cut and dry as you make it. There are a lot of factors at work. A big one being the fact that Wolverine has no real crutch (green k, the color yellow) yet he can take punishment of epic proportions.

Errrmm...couldn't batman just Zip-line to the top of a building and call in the Bat-jet? Not to actually fight wolverine, but if we are talking about escaping/evading him. I will admit that Wolverine is faster than batman, but spider-man is faster than wolverine, as well. And we all know that Wolverine can avoid, at least, some of parker's blows. Giving Batman the benefit of the doubt, assuming he could avoid one or two strikes, zip line up a building, and high tail it out of there.

Only to return with some very high powered tranqs, since we've seen that work before. 🙂.

Originally posted by Soleran
I need you to think out of the box here, OUT of your box more specifically.................... 😆
That means absolutely nothing. Fanboy taunts get old quick.

Bottom Line: Batman's chances of evading Wolverine are really crappy compared to Wolverine's chances of evading Batman.

Originally posted by Takion
What has Batman really done in 24 hour prep?

(Not sarcasm, it's a question)

Has taken down countless amounts of superhumans
Has out thought a supercomputer
Has files on the ENTIRE JLA and exactly how to beat all of them in detail
etc...

Originally posted by Soleran
I need you to think out of the box here, OUT of your box more specifically.................... 😆

He can't.......

Originally posted by riceroost
What weaknesses does Wolverine have for Batman to exploit? Sonics for super senses, but honestly Batman would need a lot of time to observe Wolverine, and the likelyhood of that happening before Wolverine notices someone is watching him is kind of dubious.

Wolverine's ninja training is pretty impressive. He can make himself invisible in broad daylight, in an open field, when Nightcrawler is looking right at him.

My point is when has Batman successfully employed his prep against:

A) a superhuman.
B) w/ enhanced senses.
C) who has very Batmanesque training.
D) and has been doing the Batman thing for over a century???

Even if Batman preps for Deathstroke, he's still not dealing with someone who has a higher level of experience than Captain America. I dont think it's quite as cut and dry as you make it. There are a lot of factors at work. A big one being the fact that Wolverine has no real crutch (green k, the color yellow) yet he can take punishment of epic proportions.

With prep, Batman has knowledge of Wolverine and what he's about. Combine that with is amazing intellect and his gadgets/technology he would take down Wolverine.

Sonics
Liquid nitrogen capsules
Powerful knock-out gas
etc...

Whatever it would take. Batman would find a way. However, with detailed enough background on Wolverine, he could possibly invent a machine that could reverse the process of Wolverine's healing factor. Batman's a tricky son of a b*tch, he could do it.

Originally posted by riceroost
That means absolutely nothing. Fanboy taunts get old quick.

Bottom Line: Batman's chances of evading Wolverine are really crappy compared to Wolverine's chances of evading Batman.

if you feel taunted then thats your piece, not mine.

It gets so tedious to get into a prep piece with someone who just will wiggle and squirm to facilitate something for Wolverine.

Its fairly obvious the strength route isn't the way to take down Wolverine. However overcoming his senses then using drugs with his overloaded senses to confuse and boom tube him into space or anywhere for that matter. Its not hard its just the writers make it so retarded obvious for Wolverine to overcome. However Weapon X certainly found a way to contain Wolverine for awhile huh, so can Batman.

Hell even just dose Wolverine with Liquid Nitrogen, not hard.

As far as evading only a simpleton would think Batman literally attempts to "run" from Wolverine when he has his untility belt.

Originally posted by batdude123

Whatever it would take. Batman would find a way. However, with detailed enough background on Wolverine, he could possibly invent a machine that could reverse the process of Wolverine's healing factor. Batman's a tricky son of a b*tch, he could do it.

Considering the way batman researches, he may run across the whole "Agent-X anti-healing-facotr-corrosive," and use that as a basis to negate Wolverine's healing factor. Without it, Wolverine would become tired much faster, especially lugging around 100 pounds of metal inside him. He also couldn't unsheath his claws without bleeding out.

But Wolverine would still have strength and speed over batman...so..I'm not sure that even that would give Batman the win.

I'm saying that's one aspect of Batman's process and how he would finish off Wolverine.

Please theres plenty of high end feats that suggest Batmans as fast or faster then Wolverine.

If they bring out all these stupid one time Wolverine feats then I might aswell bust out with the Batman ones....and there are lots of them.😄

*sigh* I guess maybe later I'll have to bust out the whole "motherbox" deal. 😐

Originally posted by riceroost
I agree. Ryu is a beast.

ryu's a beast.. but put down wolverine? how... ryu's best hadoken can level mountain tops or building tops... but even then the power output he uses to make blasts that powerful are taxing on him.. if wolverine can take hulk shots why can't he take a hado ken?

upclose.. there's really no question in my mind.. ryu may have more natural skill but he's going to be hard pressed to put wolverine down.. just like iron fist was.

Originally posted by jinzin
ryu's a beast.. but put down wolverine? how... ryu's best hadoken can level mountain tops or building tops... but even then the power output he uses to make blasts that powerful are taxing on him.. if wolverine can take hulk shots why can't he take a hado ken?

upclose.. there's really no question in my mind.. ryu may have more natural skill but he's going to be hard pressed to put wolverine down.. just like iron fist was.

i think ryu can take wolverine, but he would need too much time, to do the shin-haduken, and in h2h, cap pwns street fighter.

Originally posted by jinzin
ryu's a beast.. but put down wolverine? how... ryu's best hadoken can level mountain tops or building tops... but even then the power output he uses to make blasts that powerful are taxing on him.. if wolverine can take hulk shots why can't he take a hado ken?

upclose.. there's really no question in my mind.. ryu may have more natural skill but he's going to be hard pressed to put wolverine down.. just like iron fist was.


I understand what your saying. Ryu CAN'T kill Wolverine but can definitly take out him. And might I remind you he can summon shin no sabusto or something like that, and then use the Shinku Hadoken. This Hadoken has been powerful enough too blow up an island.

Ryu's best move is Shin Shoryken. Everyone except Oro has been knocked out by it.

Originally posted by King KAM
i think ryu can take wolverine, but he would need too much time, to do the shin-haduken, and in h2h, cap pwns street fighter.

Twelve might slice cap in half

MIGHT

gil would incinerate cap thuogh, so unfortunately, cap doesnt pwn street fighter

thats only if you ment cap as in captain