Anyone else like the scene when Mystique lost her powers?

There is something wrong with the way the director of the current X-Men movie handled Mystique's loss of powers. It is to my understanding that her original form is blue-skinned, not pink. Therefore, when she lost her powers, the only thing that could have changed within her was her morphing abilities.

To affirm my views, in X-Men 2, Nightcrawler asks Mystique why she doesn't change and pretend to be normal all the time. She answers, "Because we shouldn't have to." Or, something like that. This goes to show that she recognizes that her true form is blue-skinned.

In addition, in the first X-Men movie, after Wolverine punctures her in the stomach, she passes out, reverting back to what appears to be her true form: blue-skinned.

The serum she was injected with will only stop her powers of transformation. When she became pink / white-skinned, the serum not only neutrilized said powers, but transformed her from one race to another. Clearly, the parameters of the serum have gone way and beyond the original set of rules.

By the same token, Beast should not have been affected because his change was caused by chemical experimentation that altered his DNA. Not only his skin, but also his powerfully muscular features are a NATURAL state for him. If you try to "cancel" his powers, his NATURAL physique demands that he still looks like a beast, and still be as strong as a gorilla.

It is true that I did not graduate from M.I.T with a doctorate degree in rocket science. But, I can still make sense of what is supposed to be logical. And, in this case, logic is out of whack.

Originally posted by Richie3000
There is something wrong with the way the director of the current X-Men movie handled Mystique's loss of powers. It is to my understanding that her original form is blue-skinned, not pink. Therefore, when she lost her powers, the only thing that could have changed within her was her morphing abilities.

Her original form is blue b/c she is a mutant. She mutated into having blue skin.

Originally posted by Richie3000
To affirm my views, in X-Men 2, Nightcrawler asks Mystique why she doesn't change and pretend to be normal all the time. She answers, "Because we shouldn't have to." Or, something like that. This goes to show that she recognizes that her true form is blue-skinned.

Once again. Yes her true form is blue b/c she is a mutant who was mutated that way.

Originally posted by Richie3000
In addition, in the first X-Men movie, after Wolverine punctures her in the stomach, she passes out, reverting back to what appears to be her true form: blue-skinned.

Yes her true form is blue b/c she is a MUTANT with blue skin. Why would she revert to a human being. Being killed isn't the cure to mutancy you know. She would still be a mutant if she died.

Originally posted by Richie3000
The serum she was injected with will only stop her powers of transformation. When she became pink / white-skinned, the serum not only neutrilized said powers, but transformed her from one race to another. Clearly, the parameters of the serum have gone way and beyond the original set of rules.

No the serum is doing exactly what it was made to do. Get rid of mutants and turn them into human beings.

Part of Mystique's mutancy is her blue skin, so when she got injected she rightfully lost her transforming ability and blue skin.

If she kept her blue skin the serum wouldn't be right and it wouldn't make since for her to lose her morphing ability and not her blue skin.

Think about it.

Originally posted by Richie3000
By the same token, Beast should not have been affected because his change was caused by chemical experimentation that altered his DNA. Not only his skin, but also his powerfully muscular features are a NATURAL state for him. If you try to "cancel" his powers, his NATURAL physique demands that he still looks like a beast, and still be as strong as a gorilla.

Once again you're making the same mistakes as you did with Mystique so all you need to do is read what I wrote about Mystique and apply it to Beast.

Originally posted by Richie3000
It is true that I did not graduate from M.I.T with a doctorate degree in rocket science. But, I can still make sense of what is supposed to be logical. And, in this case, logic is out of whack.

is it comprehensible.....

It would seem that my attempt to apply any logic to my views are being met with resistance. I cannot change the individual views of one person. Nor will I try.

The only thing that I ask is that, whoever reads my review, actually dwell on the logic involved. You don’t have to take my word for it…just think about it.

I have been reading X-Men since the late 1970s and, therefore, I consider myself someone who knows quite a bit about them. I grew up with these guys. I think I know a thing or two about their personalities and powers.

From what I remember in the comics, Leech mostly affected energy based mutants, like Cyclops, and cancelled their powers within near proximity. However, when Leech was under the care of X-Factor, Beast did not suffer any side effects from being near him. That is, Beast was still blue and furry, even while near Leech.

Another point is that, when Leech was living with the Morlocks, he did not have a profound effect on their physical appearance. Everybody in the comic book world knows that the mutant Masque physically rearranged all incoming members’ faces, very ugly-looking, all to show defiance to the world outside. Well, when Leech was near all these mutant Morlocks, their faces still remained butt-ugly, meaning that he did not have any effect on the physical make-up of a person. All this was just added in the movie for dramatic effects.

Think about this: How could a vaccine know what is a human or a mutant. Suppose a 7-foot basketball player comes into contact with said vaccine, will it confuse him for a mutant and shrink him down to 5-foot and 5 inches. Has everybody forgotten when Conan the Barbarian was transported to the 20th century on an issue of What If? In it, there was a cop who mistook Conan for a mutant, all due to his powerful strength.

Once again, I must point out that, what Leech’s power did in the movie, went beyond the scope of his power. It isn’t so much that it cancelled a mutant’s power so as to reveal what it perceives to be a normal human form, but that, for all intents and purposes, it actually rewrote that person’s DNA to change him or her into “normal” looking.

In the case of Mystique, why was the vaccine compelled to transform her into a person with pink / white skin? Why not black? Or yellow? For that matter, why not change her into another mammal other then human. What is the genetic basis for the transformation?

Look, we all know that all this is what people call hokey science. We know that this is all fake and done to entertain the public. I can dig it. It’s just, that, when someone tries to use science in a fictional way, and yet try to make it come out as real, then that person better be sure that it makes sense.

Upon watching X-Men: The Last Stand, I suspended all forms of disbelief. I loved the movie very much. It was afterwards, while analyzing, that I started picking up details and making sense of everything.

I do not wish to engage in a flaming war here. If anyone has an intelligent opinion, then that person should come forward expressing agreement or disagreement with my statements. Please give specific reasons for your case.

Originally posted by Richie3000
It would seem that my attempt to apply any logic to my views are being met with resistance. I cannot change the individual views of one person. Nor will I try.

The only thing that I ask is that, whoever reads my review, actually dwell on the logic involved. You don’t have to take my word for it…just think about it.

I have been reading X-Men since the late 1970s and, therefore, I consider myself someone who knows quite a bit about them. I grew up with these guys. I think I know a thing or two about their personalities and powers.

From what I remember in the comics, Leech mostly affected energy based mutants, like Cyclops, and cancelled their powers within near proximity. However, when Leech was under the care of X-Factor, Beast did not suffer any side effects from being near him. That is, Beast was still blue and furry, even while near Leech.

Another point is that, when Leech was living with the Morlocks, he did not have a profound effect on their physical appearance. Everybody in the comic book world knows that the mutant Masque physically rearranged all incoming members’ faces, very ugly-looking, all to show defiance to the world outside. Well, when Leech was near all these mutant Morlocks, their faces still remained butt-ugly, meaning that he did not have any effect on the physical make-up of a person. All this was just added in the movie for dramatic effects.

Think about this: How could a vaccine know what is a human or a mutant. Suppose a 7-foot basketball player comes into contact with said vaccine, will it confuse him for a mutant and shrink him down to 5-foot and 5 inches. Has everybody forgotten when Conan the Barbarian was transported to the 20th century on an issue of What If? In it, there was a cop who mistook Conan for a mutant, all due to his powerful strength.

Once again, I must point out that, what Leech’s power did in the movie, went beyond the scope of his power. It isn’t so much that it cancelled a mutant’s power so as to reveal what it perceives to be a normal human form, but that, for all intents and purposes, it actually rewrote that person’s DNA to change him or her into “normal” looking.

In the case of Mystique, why was the vaccine compelled to transform her into a person with pink / white skin? Why not black? Or yellow? For that matter, why not change her into another mammal other then human. What is the genetic basis for the transformation?

Look, we all know that all this is what people call hokey science. We know that this is all fake and done to entertain the public. I can dig it. It’s just, that, when someone tries to use science in a fictional way, and yet try to make it come out as real, then that person better be sure that it makes sense.

Upon watching X-Men: The Last Stand, I suspended all forms of disbelief. I loved the movie very much. It was afterwards, while analyzing, that I started picking up details and making sense of everything.

I do not wish to engage in a flaming war here. If anyone has an intelligent opinion, then that person should come forward expressing agreement or disagreement with my statements. Please give specific reasons for your case.

4 Words: It's not a comic.

12 Words: Mystique was obviously a White person before her mutation turned her blue.

44 Words: Just as the comics have multiple Universe, this movie represents a Universe where these things happens. It in no way has to follow any rules from any other Universe. This movies are called X-Men with their own subtitles, not X-Men with Comic Book Titles.

35 Words: Do you compare different Universes in Comic Books and get mad when one Universe does something different from another b/c if that's the case then you should have stopped reading a long time ago buddy.

3 Big Words:

Is It Comprehensible.....

You know something, InnerRise? You are absolutely right. In my quest to make sense of it all, I forgot the reason why I went to see the movie in the first place, which was to escape reality and enjoy 2 hours of entertainment.

There is absolutely no reason why I should take this movie apart. I’m not a director or screenwriter, but just a spectator. I don’t get paid for making the movie, but I pay to see the movie. Therefore, I shall take the movie for what it really was: a highly anticipated evening involving guilty-pleasure. I enjoyed it very much, and will, most likely, buy it once it comes out on DVD.

I agree, never a truer word said!

Originally posted by Kal875
she was a very beautiful, very naked girl on the floor, of course they wanted her to stay!

i agree with that..did u see how Pyro was looking at her with her nakedness...whoa lol

Originally posted by Richie3000
You know something, InnerRise? You are absolutely right. In my quest to make sense of it all, I forgot the reason why I went to see the movie in the first place, which was to escape reality and enjoy 2 hours of entertainment.

There is absolutely no reason why I should take this movie apart. I’m not a director or screenwriter, but just a spectator. I don’t get paid for making the movie, but I pay to see the movie. Therefore, I shall take the movie for what it really was: a highly anticipated evening involving guilty-pleasure. I enjoyed it very much, and will, most likely, buy it once it comes out on DVD.

That movie was too short but good still.

is it comprehensible.....

i was under the impression that mystique didn't gain her powers until she was at least old enough to go to school.......so, maybe she was "pink" before that and when her mutant powers began to show up, her skin changed as well. Then she was cured. The skin came with her powers.

That's like saying Wolverine's claws would dissapear if he was cured.
They didn't come with his power, so he would keep them.

Besides, if Mystique's parents tried to kill her, wouldn't they have doen it after her powers emerged. And if she had always had her powers, couldn't they just have thrown her off a bridge or somehting when she was a baby...Just a thought.

Originally posted by allofyousuckkk
i was under the impression that mystique didn't gain her powers until she was at least old enough to go to school.......so, maybe she was "pink" before that and when her mutant powers began to show up, her skin changed as well. Then she was cured. The skin came with her powers.

That's like saying Wolverine's claws would dissapear if he was cured.
They didn't come with his power, so he would keep them.

Besides, if Mystique's parents tried to kill her, wouldn't they have doen it after her powers emerged. And if she had always had her powers, couldn't they just have thrown her off a bridge or somehting when she was a baby...Just a thought.

You're way into another whole conversation that we haven't even touched.

And your analogy to Richie's point of view is quite right in what you're trying to say but I understand.

is it comprehensible.....

It was a really well shot scene and i totally understand the nakedness. but y did her hair go black after getting shot if it was red before? the red looked cool!

Originally posted by FlameAngel14
It was a really well shot scene and i totally understand the nakedness. but y did her hair go black after getting shot if it was red before? the red looked cool!

is it comprehensible.....

Yeah I saw the movie! I would like the picture as a wallpaper or screensaver. You've replied to other threads of mine regarding the movie... have you seen the movie... silly.