Can the Xmen from X3 movie defend helms Deep

Isint the movie verison of iceman kinda weak? I think Wolverine would eventually get rouged up, but seeing how SOMEHOW HE SUCKED UP BLASTS FROM PHOENIX (that was really retarded) he might last, but i doubt it. The only person i could psosibly see inflicting damage to colossus (miniscule damage) is those big orc things. but colossus is pertty much unstoppable, even against 10,000 guys. Considering Aragorn and the dwarf (forgot his name) killed hundres with minimal effort. As long as someone keeps storm defended, she could flood thousands of orcs away, and maybe iceman could freeze them up or something. I think they could do it, but it wouldnet be too easy

Originally posted by Validus
Movie Wolverine? 10,000? No, he can't.

DAMN.. lol....

I was gonna do that whole bit about wolverine killing 2500 ninjas in one fight.. or the time he downed 1,000 samurai... then i read this.. forgot we're talking movie wolverine.... god he sucks... lol...

Originally posted by Soljer
Uhh, negative. There is a big difference between "Can these 6 X-men eventually kill a million uruk's?" and "Can they defend helm's deep?"

Eventually some Uruk's will make it into helms deep's walls, and at that point, the game is over. The failed to defend Helm's Deep. See the difference?

Now, could they take that many Uruks? Probably. They couldn't do ANYTHING to colossus. Wolverine would eventually be put down, but Kitty could just phase through them, ripping their hearts from their body as she does. Ice man could ice up and be invulnerable, and then take them down with relative ease. Beast would eventually be in the same boat as wolverine. Storm...as long as she stays out of the way, could wreak havok.

Hmm..I would say Colossus could do it alone. Kitty could do it alone. Ice man may be able to. Storm could as long as they had something to distract them. Eventually one of their arrows may get through, considering they'll have so many chances. Wolverine and Beast could take tons of them, but eventually would still be put down.

I tend to disagree. I think a problem is that the limits and nature of the movie versions were never really shown so we don't know just how powerful they are. For example can Iceman now "ice up" at will or was it only involuntary given that he only did it once and is still pretty young. And even if he can, do we really know if he is at the level that he can transfer his conciseness to surrounding water vapor? The same thing applies with Kitty. She is still relatively inexperienced and I don't think that the comic book Kitty can remain intangible all the time (although I could be wrong here).

That being said remember than in addition to Uruk's there are also trolls and other creatures in the army that could simply bash Colossus into the mountain or toss off the battle field. Given that they are outnumbered by the thousands I just see them either not being able to defend themselves from all these attacks (either because of their lack of durability or lack of combat expierence). Even Colossus and Wolverine I can see getting immobalized just given the numbers they are up against.

Originally posted by TheKahn
Cyclops isn't in the line up. 😉

The problem I see with Storm (and even Cyke for that matter) is the fact they would be physically vulnerable if they were focused on offensive attacks. I mean they'd have thousands of arrow coming in from almost 180 degrees and all it takes is one lucky hit. Maybe it's just me but the movie version of Storm just hasn't seemed that powerful (at least compared to the comic version). I mean wtf was that spinning around crap she was doing in the third movie? She had trouble defending herself from a single (albeit very fast) opponent. So I have my doubts about her defensive ability.

She didn't seem to have much trouble making a bunch of tornadoes in a few seconds, & would it be possible for Shadowcat to hold Storm while she wipes out as many as she can? That way thiers weapons wouldnt affect her...

That lineup from the movie would beat the **** out of the orcs/urakhai!
Put wolverine and beast in the frontline and they would wreck alot. Colossus would not be killed with those weapons. Neither will Kitty if she plays it smart. With iceman on the castle and storm in the air as firepower wat could go wrong? Storm could probably take ewm all out by herself.

Slop

the x men have this easy. storm whips up her tornadoes from x2 while standing behind the walls. job done.

Comic Juggernaut would take them all.

the urukhai would run around like little scared children with the first ligthing bolts storm creates, remember to mthese orcs thats like a god came fron heaven, they would lose their nerve.

Storm can create a thick fog so they cant see anithing, a thunderstorm on top of them, a couple tornados, hmm ist it just me or are urukai raining from the ski?

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Comic Juggernaut would take them all.

Comic version of any of these x-men could probobly take them all. 😄

Except Kitty and Beast 😛

Originally posted by TheKahn
I tend to disagree. I think a problem is that the limits and nature of the movie versions were never really shown so we don't know just how powerful they are. For example can Iceman now "ice up" at will or was it only involuntary given that he only did it once and is still pretty young. And even if he can, do we really know if he is at the level that he can transfer his conciseness to surrounding water vapor? The same thing applies with Kitty. She is still relatively inexperienced and I don't think that the comic book Kitty can remain intangible all the time (although I could be wrong here).

Originally posted by Grimm22
You really thing Wolverine can take 1,000,000 Urikai?!? 🤨

I'm pretty sure it was a an army of 10,000 or somewhere close to that number that was attacking Helm's Deep.

Going off topic here and saying that Movie Hulk could probably tear the army attacking Helm's deep a new one.

Back to the topic at hand, These 6 X-men will probably be overwhelmed. Storm will be their best bet. If an arrow hits Storm, game over. But she could hide behind Colossus and whip up a few tornados and what not. Iceman is probably the next best thing to Storm. He could freeze a bunch of Orcs at once. Or while Sotm makes it rain, Bobby could freeze the rain making tiny little falling stalagtites that could impale a few thousand orcs.

Originally posted by jinzin
DAMN.. lol....

I was gonna do that whole bit about wolverine killing 2500 ninjas in one fight.. or the time he downed 1,000 samurai... then i read this.. forgot we're talking movie wolverine.... god he sucks... lol...

I wouldnt say he sucks, but he has a FREAKIN CRAZY healing factor

Originally posted by Grimm22
Comic version of any of these x-men could probobly take them all. 😄

Except Kitty and Beast 😛

Comic Wolverine could not take them all. There was like 50,000.

Originally posted by TheKahn
I tend to disagree. I think a problem is that the limits and nature of the movie versions were never really shown so we don't know just how powerful they are. For example can Iceman now "ice up" at will or was it only involuntary given that he only did it once and is still pretty young. And even if he can, do we really know if he is at the level that he can transfer his conciseness to surrounding water vapor? The same thing applies with Kitty. She is still relatively inexperienced and I don't think that the comic book Kitty can remain intangible all the time (although I could be wrong here).

That being said remember than in addition to Uruk's there are also trolls and other creatures in the army that could simply bash Colossus into the mountain or toss off the battle field. Given that they are outnumbered by the thousands I just see them either not being able to defend themselves from all these attacks (either because of their lack of durability or lack of combat expierence). Even Colossus and Wolverine I can see getting immobalized just given the numbers they are up against.

You make good points, and I cannot argue with you about Iceman. Who knows? But you cannot assume that he CAN'T ice up at will, and neither can I assume that he CAN. Regardless, as I pointed out, it doesn't matter, the rest of the Xmen could take this easy.

Oh, and as far as kitty goes, you're right here again. This isn't the ninja kitty, nor the one we see from the comics. But we don't know that she CAN'T do exactly what I said - phase through while ripping up their insides. So who knows? Still a moot point from what we know about the others.

Colossus could be hurled from the battlefield, but whats to stop him from walking back? As far as this battle is concerned, he is indestructable. Even if EVERYONE else is killed, colossus just cannot be harmed by these foes. And what are they to do if storm flies into the air, out of range of arrows, and just rains hell?

It would take time, but they could eventually clear the field.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Comic Wolverine could not take them all. There was like 50,000.

Urikai arent that good 😐

Besides Wolverine killed like what 10,000 ninjas 😕

10,000 ninjas >>>> 50,000 Urikai

Originally posted by Grimm22
Comic version of any of these x-men could probobly take them all. 😄

Except Kitty and Beast 😛

Grr! kitty could do it she runs through them all pulling their hearts from their bodies while remaining unhurt

Originally posted by The Pict
Grr! kitty could do it she runs through them all pulling their hearts from their bodies while remaining unhurt

I highly doubt that would work for 50,000 Urikai 😛

I would think Shadowcat grabbing Storm and Iceman by the waist would be their best bet to win...

Originally posted by The Pict
Grr! kitty could do it she runs through them all pulling their hearts from their bodies while remaining unhurt