Originally posted by Soleran
Cable's TK is much much lower on average then Kon-El's and Cable blew a hole in the back of DP's head.Kon-El's TK is damn near Jean Grey's level, He can just TK a hole in Wonderman's head, the end.
Spiderman and Venom the same thing, they are fly's.
Originally posted by Soleran
It would still render him out cold, thats a win!
There's also the possibility that if Connor DOES pull that strategy, it'll cause WM's to explode like he did against Hulk in the Last Avengers Story and take every one down in the area around him, including Superboy.
Originally posted by Accel
Blowing a hole in his head wouldn't really do anything, seeing that Simon's immortal and the atoms of his ionic energy would just reform his body if it's damaged.
Exactly. His body is malleable. In Wonder Man #21 through #24, he has a bit of an upgrade. This was before his return in his Ionic Aura form. He shows he can do quite a bit more than punch someone out. He blasted War Machine with Optic Blasts from his eyes. He grew to match sizes and height with Atlas. When he was hurt and got his hand cut off battling Mephisto and his minions within his realm, in which he simply willed his hand back and it reformed itself. His body is constantly permeating with ionic energy. He still has these powers. Even more so now that his body is engulfed in Ionic Energy when he's fighting. He's a battery for ionic energy. I don't think Superboy's TK will work as well with Simon's energy since he has total control over it.
Wonder Man also has a rage factor similar to the Hulk. His strength can increase due to his anger and rage, or if he simply focuses on it. When has Superboy taken on a character like Wonder Man? Will his TK work with pure energy? That's what Wonder Man is. He's basically a solid energy construct that if killed or dispersed, will simply reassemble himself.
Future Wonder Man Hollywood is pretty impressive as well. He held his own for a short while against a powered up Dormammu. He got the better of Starhawk who is a herald level being. Starhawk has taken hits from powerhouses like Korvac and the Keeper. But WM puts him down in two hits. Cuchalin who was single handedly taking on the Guardians and was winning until Simon came and wrecked Cuchalin in one punch.
Who has Superboy beaten that was on Wonder Man's level again?
Originally posted by Dinalfos
His rage factor isn't quite the same. Also because fear makes him weaker 😂And he lost those abilities, as far as I know.
Superboy has enhanced abilities as well ie super strength, speed, heat vision AND tk. Even if Simon does blow up Superboy can still put up a blast shield between him and Simon..................
Didn't Hyperion break WM's arm and drive him through the planet............bye Wonderman.................with JUST superboy's TK he could keep WM at a distance not even getting his Kryptonian powers into play.
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Exactly. His body is malleable. In Wonder Man #21 through #24, he has a bit of an upgrade. This was before his return in his Ionic Aura form. He shows he can do quite a bit more than punch someone out. He blasted War Machine with Optic Blasts from his eyes. He grew to match sizes and height with Atlas. When he was hurt and got his hand cut off battling Mephisto and his minions within his realm, in which he simply willed his hand back and it reformed itself. His body is constantly permeating with ionic energy. He still has these powers. Even more so now that his body is engulfed in Ionic Energy when he's fighting. He's a battery for ionic energy. I don't think Superboy's TK will work as well with Simon's energy since he has total control over it.Wonder Man also has a rage factor similar to the Hulk. His strength can increase due to his anger and rage, or if he simply focuses on it. When has Superboy taken on a character like Wonder Man? Will his TK work with pure energy? That's what Wonder Man is. He's basically a solid energy construct that if killed or dispersed, will simply reassemble himself.
Future Wonder Man Hollywood is pretty impressive as well. He held his own for a short while against a powered up Dormammu. He got the better of Starhawk who is a herald level being. Starhawk has taken hits from powerhouses like Korvac and the Keeper. But WM puts him down in two hits. Cuchalin who was single handedly taking on the Guardians and was winning until Simon came and wrecked Cuchalin in one punch.
Who has Superboy beaten that was on Wonder Man's level again?
Wasn't all that energy projection he once had BEFORE Wanda revived him? 😕 If so, we are not talking about that. We are talking about current Wonder Man.
Originally posted by Dinalfos
His rage factor isn't quite the same. Also because fear makes him weaker 😂And he lost those abilities, as far as I know.
When? Point out the issue. His fear affected him in his battle with Adam Warlock, but that was before his upgrade and before he faced his fears with his battle against Mephisto and his minions. WM has no such fear weakness now.
Originally posted by Soleran
Superboy has enhanced abilities as well ie super strength, speed, heat vision AND tk. Even if Simon does blow up Superboy can still put up a blast shield between him and Simon..................Didn't Hyperion break WM's arm and drive him through the planet............bye Wonderman.................with JUST superboy's TK he could keep WM at a distance not even getting his Kryptonian powers into play.
And Hyperion never broke his arm adn he killed a mortal and much less experienced WM.
Originally posted by batdude123
Wasn't all that energy projection he once had BEFORE Wanda revived him? 😕 If so, we are not talking about that. We are talking about current Wonder Man.
Originally posted by batdude123
Wasn't all that energy projection he once had BEFORE Wanda revived him? 😕 If so, we are not talking about that. We are talking about current Wonder Man.
He can still do all of those. When did the writers say he lost all those additional powers? Wonder Man simply needs to focus for those powers to work. That's it. I doubt Superboy could even compete with him physically. Add in the other two flies in the ointment and Superboy goes down.
Originally posted by Accel
yes, but we've covered this already. Superboy has no showings to indicate he's superior to Simon in terms of speed or strength or even durability. Heat vision and TK may not be enough as well, as WM could possibly break any TK constructs, (unless any one can tell of a time they held someone decisively stronger).And Hyperion never broke his arm adn he killed a mortal and much less experienced WM.
Taking shots from a guy who can literally move planets with his bare hands is a fairly impressive (almost PIS-ish) feat. Not only does Connor have the regular assortment of Kryptonian powers but also has his tactile telekinesis which grants him added durability which could be an argument as to why he was able to survive the encounter.
Originally posted by Accel
Current Wonder Man still has all his abilities he exhibited over the years.
Proof?
Originally posted by Soleran
His first fight with Superboy Prime is a huge showing of durability what are you talking about durability🙂
Originally posted by batdude123
Taking shots from a guy who can literally move planets with his bare hands is a fairly impressive (almost PIS-ish) feat. Not only does Connor have the regular assortment of Kryptonian powers but also has his tactile telekinesis which grants him added durability which could be an argument as to why he was able to survive the encounter.
Originally posted by batdude123
Proof?